Six Questions with Forrest Fenn and The Thrill of the Chase Treasure Hunt: Double Charmed

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Chatting with Forrest Fenn

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Thanks so much to Forrest for participating in yet another Six Questions.  This is the sixth of a series, and so I’m sure we are all going to be double charmed with his answers! I’m so grateful, and always honored to share reflections, thoughts, feelings, views, and replies of his, from not only the Six Questions, but from searcher questions as well.  It’s such a pleasure.

Over the years, The Thrill of the Chase has brought much enjoyment into the homes of many.  Ultimately, inspiring families to get out of those homes and explore the wonders of nature.  Forrest’s hunt reminds us not to let our busy lives prevent us from appreciating the beauty which silently surrounds us. It helps us recognize the overwhelming gifts which are freely given in the world.

Even though there is only one hidden 10x10x5 bronze treasure chest, and this cache of gold and other valuable and amazing artifacts patiently wait for its finder, there has been a tremendous amount of other types of treasures being discovered during the Chase.  The Chase is real. It is afoot, and I wish the best of luck to all!

Please enjoy!   (and after the Six Questions, Enter your chance to win a Free Signed copy of Once Upon A While by Forrest Fenn)

Six Questions:

1Q) Sitting by your fire, enjoying the treasure of solitude, I wonder where your thoughts mainly roam? I wonder, where do you travel in your mind and what pleasures pass through your thoughts? Are they memories of long ago or contemplations of the future? Are they sorrowful or joyful?  Do they bend towards contentment or regrets? Would you be willing to share some of your thoughts during your cherished time by the crackling of wood? And also, I know many would love to hear more about your youth? Would you share some thoughts on that too? 

I’m probably not different from most men my age. Retirement gives time to just remember and contemplate. I enjoy wondering how my life would be different if I had taken more detours when they were available to me.

When I was about 6 our house burned down. It was rebuilt and my father added a 2-car garage (One side was for his small fishing boat), a barn, and a shed where my mom washed our clothes. We always had animals, and chores kept me busy before and after school. Silver, our Shetland pony, and Bessy, our cow, each had their own stall. A third stall held hay and corn. We had chickens, ducks, and a goat named Billy The Kid.

It was my job to mow the grass, muck the stalls, set mouse traps, and keep water in our small duck pond. Before school each day I milked Bessie, and staked Silver out to graze. Billy The Kid stayed close to Silver so he was easy. Before supper I milked Bessie again and brought Silver in. I loved all of it.

When we went to Yellowstone each summer our house was rented to people who tended the animals. Later, my father sold the part of our property that bordered 2nd Street, and a house was built there. We had to cut back some.

After my father died the property was sold, and the house burned down again. I like to look at the old place on Google Earth. All that remains now are the cement front porch, the garage, and a few pecan trees. Time waits for no one.

I could go on with this Jenny, but already there is too much. Sorry.


2Q) For most, the physical search season is at a halt until the warm waters of Spring begin to flow once again. It’s currently a quiet time which offers opportunity for reflection upon past ideas, solves, failures, and thrills.  Previously, you had mentioned a few searchers solved the first two clues, but weren’t necessarily knowledgeable of the fact. 

Are you aware of any more progress made past the first two clues? Have searchers homed into other clues or words in the poem? Have searchers been closer than 200 feet to the treasure?

I am rarely told exactly where people are searching so I don’t know if they are getting closer or not. My gut feeling is that someone will find it this summer.


3Q) Since asking my first Six Questions with you on The Thrill of the Chase, back in 2013, you have published two more exceptional books, Too Far to Walk (2014), and just this last fall, Once Upon A While (2017). And of course, in 2015, you published your wonderful biography of the Russian-American artist Leon Gaspard, that you say you worked on for 16 years. But I think all of us would like to know more about those detours you mention in Q1. Would you be able to elaborate on some of those?

My all-time favorite dream was to be a golfer and play on the PGA tour, but I had a 12 Handicap.

I might have done a lot of things after I retired from the Air Force, but running an art gallery, dealing with 14 employees, and an endless stream of Indian traders was too time consuming.

I wanted to be a blacksmith, and had a forge in my art foundry. Most of the wrought iron fixtures in our gallery were made by me. That was fun but making a living at it would have been difficult.

At one time I owned half interest in a real estate business in Santa Fe.

I went to China at the invitation of the Minister of Culture (who had stayed in our guest house). My hope was to acquire their government owned ceramic and bronze antiques, and sell them in our gallery. That might have worked, but would have required a large initial capital outlay, and endless meetings to get answers. The Chinese have a saying, “The tree grows slowly, but the earth is patient.”

I wanted to be a fishing guide, a welder, an archaeologist, a professional helicopter pilot, a literary agent, a museum curator.

I have been pretty good at a few things, but have never really good at anything. My recurring dream is to paint one great painting, write one great country song, one great book, one great poem, and interview Winston Churchill. I have enough to think about in my retirement.


4Q) I’ve mentioned this before, but in your book, The Secrets of San Lazaro Pueblo, one of my favorite quotes within is, “Each artifact that is not recovered is a book that will not be read”. I suppose my love for old and unique things, the touching of history and feeling the life in them, makes me relate to it. I wonder, is there a mystery you would have loved to have solved by finding the artifact which told its truth?

I excavated five early Spanish keys at San Lazaro Pueblo, so logic tells me there must some wooden trunks secreted in the ruins someplace.

In 1680, when the Indians revolted against the Spanish and killed many of them, the survivors fled south down the Rio Grande, leaving most of their possessions. If we can find a trunk full of documents, we will rewrite the history of the Southwest.

My treasure chest is not hidden at San Lazaro although a few searchers think it is.


5Q) People are valuing the Thrill of the Chase and all that it offers. Thank you for creating an adventure which can spark dreams and embolden lives to explore a life craved. It’s amazing to think how a poem of 24 lines, with reward at end, can inspire so many different things in so many different people.  

Numerous searchers are convinced they know where the treasure is, and are close-minded to alternate options. Only one, if even one, of course, can be correct. It seems a bit sad for seemingly so many to be entrenched on a wrong path, even if treasures of a different type can be found there as well.  From your perspective, what do you feel causes such blindness or stubbornness?

Stubbornness is sometimes confused with tenacity. There are many avid searchers looking for the treasure who are not blinded by its value.  After I hid the treasure I never went back to that spot, and now I can’t.


6Q) I was thinking the other day about how exciting it would be for someone in the future to find your buried bronze jars; not only to prize the small items hidden inside, but to read ‘Imagination is more important than knowlege” (which is on one of the jars). I find your desire to leave things behind for people to discover admirable.  No matter whether I find an old valuable relic or unique shaped stone when out metal detecting or on a search, I love them; and so it is easy for me to imagine how awesome finding one of your jars will be.

But this also got me thinking about Imagination and Knowledge, and how best to solve the poem. You’ve said to marry the clues to geographic locations and treat the poem like a map.  But I wonder do you feel a person with ONLY imagination or ONLY knowledge is more apt to solve your poem? For instance, an Kid living on the East Coast might have an amazing imagination, but not much knowledge about the Rockies. 

How much knowledge do you think a normal East Coast Kid has to have to find your treasure?  Or is Imagination enough.  As an example, would an East Coast Kid have to become familiar with the western ways, languages, and other manners of the Rockies?

It may be a while before my buried jars and bells are discovered because there is no visible sign that I had been there. None are near populated areas, and landscapes change over time with growing vegetation and blowing leaves. But I am comfortable with the thought that eventually all 8 will be found.

It helps to know something about Rocky Mountain geography when making plans to search for my treasure. Rocking chair ideas can lead one to the first few clues, but a physical presence is needed to complete the solve. Google Earth cannot help with the last clue.


  • PS) I come to the end and dread the idea there was something you were hoping I would ask instead of the previous 6. I’m worried there were things you had hoped to comment on, but the questions above didn’t offer the chance. So, I have to add a PS and ask: Is there something special you want to say or what would you like most to say to readers?

Thanks for the opportunity to add a comment Jenny. When I decided to hide the chest, part of my plan was for everyone to get outside to enjoy nature and get healthier. The possibility of finding my treasure was incentive enough to encourage the masses, and that has happened beyond my remotest expectations.

The chest is still where I hid it, and I hope every searcher stays safe in the mountains. f



I am definitely double charmed by your answers, Forrest!  Thank you so much for participating in MW’s Six Questions.  I know thousands of readers look immensely forward to them each year, and so do I.  They help keep the fire burning for finding your treasure chest.

Over the years, I have investigated, worked, and searched for numerous Treasures.  Without a doubt, your treasure and the Chase is the best.  It is legendary. I often think how incredibly fortunate my husband and I are to be part of such an extraordinary opportunity, and to have met you.

I’ve met so many amazing people and learned so many remarkable things because of the Chase, and other hunts.  It is my passion.  Thank you for providing us your dare, and thank you readers for visiting and being part of the MW community, as well.  You all make it so special.

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413 Responses

  1. a says:

    oh no! someone has solved the poem!

    • Shaka, when the walls fell says:

      The means of solving it are now understood, except for the last clue which remains illusive.

      • Iceman says:

        Once you know the method and the rules, it’s just a matter of time. No one has figured out the final clue. So the treasure is still in a safe place. My opinion.

    • The Adventurers says:

      What makes you say that?

    • Iceman says:

      That’s just K…racey talk.

    • Harry’s Stamper says:

      You will notice Mr Fenn only addresses one of the 3 ?’s In Q2 not all of them.

      • Beef stew says:

        Most likely not to give someone an extra advantage or the perception of an extra advantage especially since in my opinion some one is extremely close to solving the final clue. I also believe that person most likely has been closer than 200 feet and if Forrest was to confirm that, some of the people would take away from the huge accomplishment of solving this thing.

        • Harry’s Stamper says:

          Interesting perspective, thanks

        • Crimsonblaze says:

          Yooge it is and yooge it will Be.

          • Harry’s Stamper says:

            I curious what everyone’s take is on Q3 referencing Mr Fenns answer to Q1?

            • Crimsonblaze says:

              I think he better hurry if he’s gonna get that Chuchhill interview in. Sounds like something I heard when I was a kid. A man will have one good truck, one good dog and one good horse and one good woman in a lifetime. Seems like Forrest tree is still growing.

              • Brad Hartliep says:

                A good truck and a good dog can always be replaced – but never, in Life, the One Good Woman ..

                I found mine in ’88, when we were both 22 .. She had me at the very first smile; and every moment I spent with her, from that moment forward, was more happily fulfilling then the last 8 years of my existence. I fell for her the moment I saw her ..

                She was dressed in a blanche white blouse and pitch black skirt and strolling, sensually, down the winding straight stairs of an obscure little Mexican Restaurant outside of K-town, near Landstuhl, near Ramstein, in the middling West of West Germany ..

                In the Last Dying Throws of a War So Cold ..

                Stepping out of my car, she stopped me in my tracks .. she was so stunning to view – a Strawberry Blonde Goddess of Loveliness from Red Oak, Nebraska .. moving, so alluringly, in the Feline Form of a Mexican Senorita, dancing ever-so-slowly toward me .. down the dark and tipping alleyways of Brewery Gulch in Bisbee ..

                And for the next 10 Months, I was the happiest man on Planet Earth .. gladly sharing every free moment of my dusty time away from base .. just to be in her presence .. and sensing her laughter ..

                “Check the Blink and Good Luck” ..

                Six Weeks Later, my eyes blathered open .. and I groggily awoke, from a deep dark coma, to find myself lying, strapped to the bed, in the NICU WARD at LARMC ..

                She was gone. But then so was I. It took me 8 more months of rehab and physical training and occupational therapy and weeks of Minnesota-Iowa Batteries before I realized it – it took me that long just to learn how to walk and talk and screw bolts and nuts together to figure out who I was ..

                Then the Memories started coming back .. slowly ..

                2 years later, I was back in Tucson – when I suddenly remembered who she was. — And just like that, I began searching for her .. without relief ..

                I spent every waking night and day, for the next 20 years, looking .. Digging through records for any faint sign of her .. First name. Last name. Age. Relatives. Just even one connection. In every state in the Union ..

                All the time hoping – for even the slightest chance – that she still remembered me .. and still thought of me .. as much as I desperately thought of her — and was waiting .. patiently .. for me to find her ..

                Like a Forgotten Fairy Tale ..

                Unfortunately, in Life, Reality some-times sets in .. and the waking ends a man’s dreams .. Thereafter, dreams are not worth following .. For there’s no one there in the book to share them with ..

                “High Deserts are the Place to Be!” ..
                “We’re moving on to Beverly!” ..

                A plane is a plane, of course, of course and so is a horse a horse — Especially in Niobrara, Nebraska ..

                But the One Good Woman – once she is lost – can never be replaced — if you’ve ever been lucky enough to find her ..

                And Solitude .. and Loneliness .. become the Final Frontier .. the only Viable Future left as a Natural Resource .. for Survival ..

                Once that moment is reached, you can never turn back. Your Past is Transported. Fortune means Nothing — Especially to a man alone .. For what seems Forever ..

                Without a Wife or Child to Love .. to Lift your Spirits .. the only thing left to keep you going is some .. dying grasp at Fame ..

                Future – the kind that lives beyond your own past – doesn’t exist for a man with lost dreams .. and a man alone .. dies forever .. From the Ancient Memories of a Pierced Heart ..

                Like QueBrada – the Broken ..


  2. blanche says:

    Thanks Forrest and Jenny. Nice well thought out questions Jenny, great job!

  3. locolobo says:

    Thanks f, and Jenny…….Love it!!

    (ain’t got time to chat…..gotta go buy a rockin’ chair) 🙂

    “Rocking chair ideas can lead one to the first few clues….”

  4. astree says:

    Thank you, Forrest and Jenny.

  5. Diggin Gypsy says:

    Wow his gut feeling I hope is right What great questions thanks Jenny can’t wait to get out there this summer and seems to me someone told him a correct solve wonder who it is and how many have given himmansolve lately 🤔🤗

  6. Diggin Gypsy says:

    This is so exciting I wanna go search now

    • Zaphod73491 says:

      DG: my initial (and continuing) reaction is: “Who does Forrest suspect has put all the pieces together?” At last tally, we were still at 2 clues and holding, with the ~possibility~ that someone had solved 4 clues (but he wasn’t sure). Pretty big jump in progress if Forrest’s gut tells him someone might solve it this summer.

      • Beef stew says:

        My guess, it is probably someone who is new to the chase and by new I mean probably only started in 2017. I noticed at the end of 2017 the answers given in some of the featured questions section had Forrest doing a go around with some of the answers. A lot of the questions would have originally drawn a response akin to what you are saying about maybe 2 clues but they weren’t sure. I firmly believe someone has solved or is within a clue or 2 of solving the entire thing, I have believed it for a few months and this really makes me think I am correct. Too bad beefstew isn’t the one. Happy hunting!!!

      • Lugnutz says:

        Zap –

        I will just jump in on this here too. WE don’t have to take that phrase at face value. Gut can be another, of the untold many, references to fishing.

        It doesn’t necessarily follow that he thinks the TC will be found this year.

        As to who might Forrest think is close? Or has been close? I will bet a 3 Dollar Bill on Stephanie.


  7. Geydelkon says:

    Thanks Jenny and Forrest. Today is a good day.

  8. TTR says:

    A fitting end.

  9. Stade says:

    Another round of great questions and answers. I enjoyed learning more about Forrest’s days as a youngster.

    One portion of this statement appears contradictory…
    After I hid the treasure I never went back to that spot, “and now I can’t.” In the past Forrest has said he could return for it anytime. COULD return /CAN’T return ??

  10. Chesney says:

    Thank You Mr. Fenn and Ms. Kile, sounds like when the snow melts this spring ! 😉

    • JC1117 says:

      Hello, Chesney.

      Spring? This makes me want to load up my snowshoes and gators and head out right now! Btw, I named my snow gators in honor of Forrest’s toothy friends. The left one is Beowulf…and the right one is Elvis. 🙂

      I always enjoy listening to Jenny ask and Forrest answer questions…and this time is no exception…exceptin’ fer the fact that this go ’round IS an exception. Things seemed awful quiet for awhile. It was so quiet that I could hear a pin drop…I mean a jaw drop. Turns out it was mine! Looks like I’ll be needin’ to up my game a notch or two.

      Thank You, Jenny and Forrest. Always a Thrill!

  11. pdenver says:

    Thank you, Jenny, and Mr. Fenn.

  12. Stade says:

    “Time and tide wait for no man.” (J.Chaucer (the first quoted, but the phrase is ancient)

    FF said time waits for no one. Perhaps he means Time waits for number no. one. #1

  13. Jdiggins says:

    Thank you, thank you, jenny and forrest!!!

  14. JDA says:

    Thanks so much Forrest and Jenny for sharing with us a few thoughts. This just might be the year. Good Luck to all searchers, and TRY to STAY SAFE all – JDA

  15. Alsetenash says:

    Time waits for no one. 🙂

  16. cynthia says:

    Thanks, Jenny and Forrest, for giving us something else to concentrate on other than the Super Bowl (GO P………..) and other blogs. I believe, the RACE IS ON!

  17. Twingem says:

    Happy for someone! Wish it coulda been me. That said, the chase has changed my life so much – and all for the better. My adventures are just beginning on other searches. When one door closes, dozens more open!

    Thank you Jenny and Forrest!

  18. Carolyn Powers says:

    Thanks Jenny and Forrest!

  19. crimsonblazeblog says:

    Thanks Forrest , Thanks Jenny , my gut feeling is New England by 10. This summer is too far away to predict anything yet. I don’t think noone can see that far out.

  20. Sparrow says:

    Thank you Forrest and Jenny!

  21. aardvarkbark says:

    Well, I hope his gut is right. I want to know where warm waters halt, dagnabbit!

    And I don’t care if it’s the one who finds TC who tells me!

    • aardvarkbark says:

      …oh, and please be sure to post a picture of that ‘blaze’ thingy.

      That’s also had me perplexed for a great while now.

      • C.M.R says:

        I would share a picture of the blaze thingy, but the inscription on the Bronze plaque would confirm for you that it is relative to Forrest life and tell you exactly where it is. There must be somewhere to go or something to do after the blaze though.

      • TomTom says:

        Where people congregate…

    • C.M.R says:

      The unintended clue on the map lets you know that you have the correct WWWH.

  22. Mark Jennings says:

    Since I probably will not be able to go on a trip this year he is probably not referring to me….

    Good questions Jenny! Thank you Mr Fenn!

  23. Bailey says:

    Thanks Mr. Fenn and Jenny. Great name for a pony. Hi-Ho Silver! Away!

  24. Five-leaf blaze says:

    Nice! So good to hear from him, good answers and good questions there! I always find an interesting correspondence to his releasing much information within the same week as my own lengthy talks on here… 😎

  25. Afana says:

    Someone ? Thank you Ms. Kile and Mr. Fenn

  26. Thanks,jenny and mr. forest.I like your ps.question and sure did a fantastic job getting people outside,it sure does open ones eyes to what is out there in nature that is so beautiful,I don’t take it for granted anymore,I see it in such a beautiful way .the wonder of it of my bucket lists is go in the mountains at night,and see the stars,do they really look like trillons of stars so beautiful.I don’t know if I’ll ever see that,but mr. fenn did get me out in the mountains,and I have took pictures of pretty little son says cretted butte is so pretty in spring with alot of wild flowers.I now believe the treasure is in wyoming around a spot I have been eyeing,but I’ll never get to go,grizzly bears just the thought ,nono,yes virginia,nono

  27. randawg says:

    The line I like the most is: “…a physical presence is needed to complete the solve. Google Earth cannot help with the last clue.”

  28. Pointfoot says:

    Thank you Forrest and Jenny! I enjoyed that update. It certainly sounds like someone is closing in. This may turn into quite the extraordinary year. I definitely am planning one more trip this upcoming season.

    No matter what happens I am thankful that I along with my family have had the chance to participate in “The Thrill of the Chase”.” What an incredible adventure!

    I have created fond new memories that will last a lifetime and tasted the thrill of the chase at every turn. At times I felt like Robin Williams in Peter Pan having forgotten the adventures of my youth and suddenly having them all flood back in.

    Forrest for that I am eternally grateful!

  29. WoodyBogg says:

    It’s good to have Forrest’s and Jenny’s Interaction with the treasure hunting community and the many followers that keep this site interesting and fun. I think I’ll go sit on my rocking chair!!

  30. OH! says:

    At first I thought when Forrest mentioned that google earth will not help you with the last clue that it alienated coordinates as being the final solve. I did some reading on the accuracy of google earth and google earth states that longitude and latitude are for entertainment purposes only. This is because they are off by 30 to 100 meters depending on the area. After all they are pictures pasted together so it makes sense.

  31. Jeremy P. says:

    Jenny, you know I love this blog, and I know you’ve got to do some sort of branded thing like “Six Questions with ___”, but have you ever considered upping the amount to twelve? I don’t want to tell you how to do your business, but I can think of a few follow up questions you might have asked! 🙂

  32. Strawshadow says:

    Thank you Jenny and Forrest,
    Simply a beautiful set of six questions and answers. With summer just around the corner this timely piece caught me chomping at the bit.

  33. trytofindme says:

    As much as we would like to go home again, often times it is not possible to have the same feelings as one once had in a different time. The environment changes and so does the person. Nostalgia is a fond memory arising out of an absent person’s inability to perceive changes that take place over time on things one remembers as static and permanent.
    Life can be considered as a series of detours, yet there are other factors that influence ones path other than a road that is perceived to be closed. Many times we drive around these road closed signs to find that the road is not closed at all. Other times, we find ourselves backtracking and suffer the consequences of ignoring the warning signs. In both cases, whether taking a detour or going straight through, you arrive at the same destination. The experience, however, is different.
    In some ways the value of the treasure is a detour. This is a theme that has been explored in literature from early times. Without citing numerous examples, the lure of finding a hord or riches by exploring and solving a mystery is almost as innate as breathing. Yet looking beyond the extrincic value of such a find maybe a greater reward.
    At a time when the amount of “information” and “knowledge” is increasing at a pace where we have increased the volume of literary content to more than what was annotated since the begging of time. perhaps we need a detour.
    There is no question that the chest is still where he hid it.

  34. Kraft says:

    Funny he didn’t say this year or spring winter or fall.
    Summer I can feel in my heart.

  35. There will be no wine before its time.
    The box will be pulled this summer.

  36. Jdiggins says:

    “I have been pretty good at a few things, but have never really good at anything. ”

    “I excavated five early Spanish keys at San Lazaro Pueblo, so logic tells me there must some wooden trunks secreted in the ruins someplace.”

    Missing a been and a be…or is it just me?

    • Strawshadow says:

      You have been wise…or is it just me, ha!

    • Pen Ghost says:

      One trunk probably. Five keys means that there are 4 keys (duplicates) just in case the holder of the key lost the key. Maybe they thought it would be unlikely to lose more than 4. I don’t know about early keys. My house key looked like a ‘skeleton’ key that would open all locks on every house in the neighborhood. Maybe the box just needed to be kept shut so the contents would not spill out and any one of the five keys could open it. Then again, perhaps there were really 6 keys so when 5 were lost the box could still be opened 🙂 Unless the ‘wooden’ trunks are located somewhere in CO or where the winter is equally or colder, termites would have devoured the wood by now – so just look for the contents which the mice probably carried all over the place by now. Good think ff used bronze 🙂

    • crimsonblazeblog says:

      This is the second time Forrest has mentioned those keys and rewriting history if he could find a chest full of documents. It must weigh on him that he didn’t find one. A key made of iron or some type of metal is going to last a whole lot longer than a wooden chest and some papers so could be all that time he was looking for a ghost that wasn’t there. Then again with 90 percent of the Pueblo still hidden, I would guesstimate there is a 90 percent chance there is a chest in there somewhere.

      • Brad Hartliep says:

        Well the Pueblo Indians didn’t write on paper .. they wrote on animal skins .. any “documents” (at least the way we define the word) would be Spanish .. but more likely he is talking about a chest full of bracelets, necklaces, “artifacts” that the Indians made .. or possibly Spanish Documents (written by the abusive, raping Padres) about Pueblo Culture or Indian Ways of Life that are lost and unknown today .. or animals skins that the Indians Painted upon that reveal the abuses and terrors brought to the Four Corners by the Catholics – they sure as hell didn’t tell us the Truth .. either way, I Applaud and Support the Pueblo Revolt and Wish To Loki I would have been there to help them Win their Land and their Women and their Children back from the Clutches of “christian” Evil ..

        Unfortunately, it didn’t Last .. and Time Travel doesn’t yet Exist to move My Time Backwards to Save Them .. Life Never Does – Too Short Mine .. The Seasons Fall Closer Every Year .. and Our Native Brothers and Sisters will slowly be Choked away from their 10,000 year connection to the Living signals from Mother Earth .. just like the Celts and Picts were more than a 1,000 year ago ..

        All the Gold in the World is Worth Nothing —
        If We do Nothing to Change the World ..


    • Spallies says:

      Hi Jdiggins I hadn’t noticed the “Be” but noticed the “Been” Thanks for pointing it out!

  37. crimsonblazeblog says:

    C0me on Forrest, I don’t believe for one minute you can’t physically go back to where you hid the chest. Now I could be convinced you don’t care to or that you don’t want to but a travelin man like you can’t just seems like a poor choice of words to me. For someone who has such a varied vocabulary I think you should reconsider your cant.

  38. Forrest Fenn says:

    I wish I could go back to that place again. f

    • Seannm says:


      Do you need a chaperone?


    • pdenver says:

      What stops you from doing so?

    • I’ll help push you on a bicycle down the path, up the ridge but you will have to be brave like always.

    • WoodyBogg says:

      I wish you could too Forrest. That place must be very special and intriguing!

    • Strawshadow says:

      Wow! Your statement is loaded with emotion, makes a person really think.

    • fLoki says:

      It’s ok f, I’ll take you back to that place, I promise! I doubt I could carry you physically lol I’m not saying you’re fat or anything, but I’ll take you back in spirit!

    • Mark Jennings says:

      I just topped off the tank

    • crimsonblazeblog says:

      I wish is much better than I can’t.
      Thank you for your reply.

    • Craig says:

      Thank you Forrest. Your effort worth the cold becomes effort worth the frozen in winter. Waiting for summer is good advice.

    • Pen Ghost says:

      Sadly understood.

    • Chesney says:

      Mr. Fenn, I am sure you do. With the terrain to “The Blaze” itself, would have been diffucult when you placed the chest. Tired and weak. All just IMO, if I am correct.

    • C.M.R says:

      spot, place, location or spot, place, situation?

    • passenger says:

      Like a child staring out at the rain, tomorrow is nigh.

    • lifesablaze says:

      When you wish upon a star the crickets stop to listen.

    • Jake says:

      It certainly isn’t an easy hike, difficult, but not impossible. IMHO…That’s if I am understanding it correctly of course. I believe Forrest when he says he really wants to go back, why wouldn’t he? But you must think if it’s because of the physical aspect or is it because it is he and the chase are too well known now? (perhaps is has another meaning as well…lol.) Oh well, I will find out this year either way. Time is one thing we can’t get back. Best of luck to all those searching. Nature is beautiful but unforgiving, like my ex-wife. Be safe. 🙂

    • JDA says:

      If you can make it to the “END”, I am sure that others would find a way to help you reach “The end of your rainbow.” – Just sayin’ JDA

    • Stad says:

      Perhaps Forrest is saying…I wish I could go back to “that place in time” again. Meaning back up time, hide the chest again, then relive the past 8 years. Me too!

      • Seannm says:


        Both the treasure and its hidden location are so vivid in my mind that I don’t need to see them with my eyes again. f

        So he doesn’t need to see a it, and for whatever reason can’t now, but wishes he could.


    • Five-leaf blaze says:

      Hi there! It’s ! Not to analyze your statement, Forrest, it is awesome that you are on here commenting! I hope everything is good with you, and that the place is still in the public domain. I get the feeling that something has changed about the accessibility of the land it is on. If it’s now private or something is different there in the natural aspect – I will be cautious. a

    • GEYDELKON says:

      Sir, I think about going back everyday. All I can do now is to display what my life should of been. My past does ail me, remember? Anyway, What do I have to lose now, but my compassion for the meek will always be found. Each and everyday I try to seed the minds, I know that some did take. Just the other day, I was at Lowes getting new cartridges for my purifier. The first ones I bought didn’t fit right. The next guy who helped me at the counter went by the name Chance. I just walked away with a smile, he liked what he now has.

    • Brad Hartliep says:

      F – Just remember, before I came back as George Patton, I shot George Custer and never told a soul ..

    • TomTom says:

      Hey Forrest, I can understand that.

      I just wanted to take a moment and tattle-tail on Dal. I made two submissions to his new Book of Blazes section on his website and he wouldn’t publish them because he said they didn’t make any sense. I had no idea I was so thin skinned, that hurt. Doesn’t he have any idea how long it takes a simple minded man like me to draft an email and attach pictures with my thumbs?! If he only knew the blazes I could contribute he wouldn’t have done that to poor TomTom, lol. Thanks for listening Forrest, I feel better already.

      I will make it somehow. -Misunderstood

      PS-Saving all my blazes to share them with you from now on.

  39. Five-leaf blaze says:

    A hint on the NINTH CLUE for that special someone! I wonder if someone finding it has to do with the land it is on or if this is a genuine person 8 clues in.

  40. Beef stew says:

    A few months ago I noticed some differences in answers given by Forrest and had a strong feeling someone had solved or was close to solving all of the clues. Mix that with the “gut feeling” and I think I was spot on. Too bad it’s not my solve, but it is going be interesting to see when someone finds the chest!

  41. Copper says:

    Harry and I can take you Forrest. I’ll drive my eyes shut so that I won’t see where we are going.

  42. Kira says:

    Thank you Forrest for telling how Bessie was taken care of durimg your family trips to YS. I had wondered how she was cared for while you were gone.

  43. J says:

    F… I’d take you back to that spot, if only so I could see the mountain, the woods, the falls from your eyes. To hear the stories of what makes a place so special, though I imagine it speaks for itself…
    “A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral.”
    ― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince

    Chapter 15 has much more to offer about geographers…. I have my stone. Let’s go for a walk… 🙂

    • J says:

      I meant Little Prince, 15:

      “No. That would be too complicated. But one requires the explorer to furnish proofs. For example, if the discovery in question is that of a large mountain, one requires that large stones be brought back from it.”

      The geographer was suddenly stirred to excitement.

      “But you–you come from far away! You are an explorer! You shall describe your planet to me!”

      And, having opened his big register, the geographer sharpened his pencil. The recitals of explorers are put down first in pencil. One waits until the explorer has furnished proofs, before putting them down in ink.

      Evidence your journey… You never know how important that rock might be… Good luck everyone!

      • JC1117 says:

        What a Beautiful Message, J.

        Sometimes…our only evidence…in the present…is to rely on the Words of Others.

        I can only imagine what it might be like to go on a walk…

        …with a Rock.

        • J says:

          Thank you, JC1117… wisdom comes from all directions, and I love to gather Words of Others. Somehow it always comes back round to inform me. I’ll enjoy dwelling on your post for a bit, for sure.

          If you enjoy wisdom, a good story, and treasure hunting, perhaps you would enjoy the Alchemist – a great little fable about life’s lessons that come along in following our dreams. “Remember that wherever your heart is, there you will find your treasure. … You’ve got to find your treasure so that everything else along the way can make sense.”

          The Thrill of the Chase is just that, is it not? A great journey for each of us – a great story – so full of golden nuggets of wisdom… I certainly have enjoyed the gathering. What a story F must have to share. 🙂

          • JC1117 says:

            Thank YOU, J.

            “…wisdom comes from all directions, and I LOVE to gather Words of Others.”

            Ah! The Word that is Key. The Most Powerful Word in The Universe to decode the Wisdom of the Ages. (Sages?)

            I’ll have to buy a copy of The Alchemist. I have never read it. I just read a summary and it looks very intriguing. Thank You.

            And I totally agree. Forrest does have a Wonderful Story to share. I hope I might be able to contribute in a Positive Way some day.

          • Jake says:

            J- I enjoy your posts. I read most of these TTOTC sites often and I have to say you seem to be very wise, kind, and positive. Thank you. I very much enjoy your quote above regarding the “A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile”… I couldn’t agree more. Such a simple marker but if hidden creatively, begs contemplation. Have an excellent time searching and God Bless! 🙂

            • J says:

              Thanks, Jake…. This is really the first I’ve posted much, so perhaps there’s another soul who deserves the credit. 🙂 The Chase is just another mystery – and who doesn’t love a good one? LOL! Good luck on the journey!

  44. Chesney says:

    Mr. Fenn,

    Your legacy will live on, whether I am correct or not. It’s “The Thrill

  45. Chesney says:

    of the Chase”! 🙂

    • Stade says:

      Chesney, I especially like one meaning of chase “private game preserve”.

      Perhaps Mr. Fenn has been instrumental in conservation of public lands so all may enjoy for future generations. That type of chase would be a wonderful legacy.

  46. Ron Ricker says:

    Forrest, you speak of the many animals you had to tend to in your childhood and you seemingly have a fondness for canines. Did you ever have a dog growing up? There is a dog pictured in TTOTC yet there is no mention of him nor any photo ‘credit’ given.
    Seems odd that you pointed out individuals in the school photo and carefully give photo description yet fail to mention Bandit.

  47. Snider says:

    Thank you Forrest and Jenny.
    I can only imagine what your gut feeling actually feels like.
    my gut feeling feels like a square knot.
    I send my best wishes to you. Hope all is well, wife, kids,, new dog, and all.
    We will see you when I get there.

  48. MartinS says:

    I always enjoy these. I especially like the answer to Q1.

    Thanks Jenny and Forrest!

  49. fallingrock says:

    A dream is a wish your heart makes
    When you’re fast asleep
    In dreams you will lose your heartaches
    Whatever you wish for, you keep
    Have faith in your dreams and someday
    Your rainbow will come smiling through
    No matter how your heart is grieving
    If you keep on believing
    The dream that you wish will come true
    A dream is a wish your heart makes
    When you’re fast asleep
    In dreams you will lose your heartaches
    Whatever you wish for, you keep
    Have faith in your dreams and someday
    Your rainbow will come smiling through
    No matter how your heart is grieving
    If you keep on believing
    The dream that you wish will come true

  50. crimsonblazeblog says:

    Marvin senior must a been pretty well off too. A place for a boat and hay, Bessie, and Silver even had their own stall. In the thirties that was livin pretty high on the hog.

  51. Jdiggins says:

    “I enjoy wondering how my life would be different if I had taken more detours when they were available to me.”

    Would be? Would have been?

    • the Wanderer says:


      Would have, might mean all those things that have transpired up to the current time.

      Would be, might mean how things would be different from this moment forward.

      Different being the key word I believe.

      It is a grammatical thing.


      • Jdiggins says:

        So what detours did he take/not take that would make things different from now forward?

        • Brad Hartliep says:

          Any detour has the potential to change EVERYTHING that happens after it ..

          I can’t speak for Bubba, but .. what if I went to Taliesin to become an Architect, as was my dream, instead of going into the Air Force because I didn’t have the money? .. I would not have had the experience of a North Korean pointing his gun at me at Panmunjom .. I would not have been at Ramstein on Aug 28th, 1988 to experience the horrific death of 70 people during an Air Show .. I would not have been in West Berlin to see the Wall come crumbling down .. or the masses of East Germans streaming into West Germany — desperately looking for family they hadn’t seen in 30 years .. Or lived in Bisbee, or San Antonio, or Austin, or Mobile, or Tyndall, or .. Peggy’s Hometown of Fort Worth .. I would probably be sitting on my 9,000 Dollar Couch in my Mansion in the Catalina Foothills, married to my High School Sweetheart, and blindly oblivious .. instead of dirt poor in a Trailer in the Texas Cross Timbers, worrying about the Future of Mother Earth ..

          My whole life was completely changed .. because of one single decision when I was 18 .. and then something completely out of my control happened in Korea .. and then three more happened, all within 15 months .. three significant events between August of 1988 and October of 1989 .. that completely changed who I was ..

          What if Forrest never hid the Chest? .. What if, instead, he was a struggling, middle-class welder still living in Lubbock? ..

          Ask yourself .. “What would You .. be doing today? .. If Forrest .. had Never moved to Santa Fe? ..

          • pdenver says:

            Hello Brad. I like this. Many times I’ve wondered about, “What if?” as I’m sure others have, too.

          • Copper says:

            Finding another way to achieve the same goals. You are a great writer Brad. I believe we have less choice on where we go and that there is a higher power tapping us on the shoulder with a map. Many detours, same destination.

    • passenger says:

      At some point they are not available to him.

      Which brings me to a point:

      Forrest Fenn: life would be much smoother without obstacles . But in the end, whatever doesn’t kill you makes you……

  52. Jdiggins says:

    “Rocking chair ideas can lead one to the first few clues, but a physical presence is needed to complete the solve. Google Earth cannot help with the last clue.”

    Is aphysical a word?

    Technically it could be, but how would you use it? intangible is a word and it basically means the same thing.

    • crimsonblazeblog says:

      An intangible presence is needed. Varied have been the streets I have driven up and down then an intangible presence detoured me and history was rewritten. Has a nice ring to it, something to build up on once in a while. If i have learned anything from old man forest it is that once you open your mind it’s hard to go back.

  53. BMS says:

    GMC … You must be really good at cats eyes marbles and really good at cr88ting one heck of a word Twisten riddle. rr

  54. Jdiggins says:

    I am reminded of Delores, Sam Snead and the ambience of it….

  55. Chesney says:

    Am I Seriously the only person who didn’t miss the starting place in the poem? I can’t believe this! Y’all need a better map. Not to be a smart-butt, just overwhelming for me to think I am this unique. There are hundreds if not thousands of places in the four states, “Where warm waters halt”! Without the correct starting point, you will never have a chance.

    • Kedar's Mom says:

      Chesney, wwwh is obvious, so is the blaze. You will know before you go, it’s the retrieval that’s difficult. Happy hunting.

  56. Iceman says:

    It appears that “the mountains are calling”.

    • Chesney says:

      I guess you are assuming I am “Drunk”?

      • Iceman says:

        I was talking to Forrest, not you Chesney. I’m too focused to pay attention to where other searchers are looking.

        • ace 340 says:

          Things are not always as they seem where chase chat is concerned, but sometimes they are, and that is why things can get confusing. I once told a story of something that had happened to me recently to lighten the mood and clicked post comment before considering how people may read into it. Although it appeared I had an opinion on recent comments, I was only telling a funny, true story. I wished I had taken my time and thought of a more appropriate story for the occasion but this was fresh in my memory, wrote itself, and by itself was really quite funny, I think. Maybe you had to be there. g

        • ace 340 says:

          Iceman, this accidental insinuation came out funny. cheers.

    • Chesney says:


      You seem to be “Chesney Phishing” a lot recently. I already said too much, as far as I am concerned…. I don’t have to prove, and never will, just remember my name.

  57. crimsonblazeblog says:

    I am trying to picture the lay out of the barn, with the wash shed. How big is a wash shed and would it include a shower stall also? Did they have running water back then? Forrest never says where the water came from when doin dishes. I know my grandma didn’t have running water until 1972 but she was a real honest to goodness backwoods arky, snuff dippin redneck.

  58. lifesablaze says:

    Detours. Henry Tandy greats his receptionist 12th floor tower II, 8 am September 12, 2001.

    • crimsonblazeblog says:

      that was some dtour. We never know what tomorrow planned for us. you take your car into a mechanic that’s been working on them for better than four years, he looks under the hood makes some adjustments on cylinder 3 through 7 and it comes out on the other side of the veil like brand new and history was changed forever.

      • crimsonblazeblog says:

        16 years later your granddaughter is sporting around in a jeep with no air conditioning making a few laps around walmart before heading out to Moab.

        • lifesablaze says:

          Is your mechanic your son-in-law? 😀

          • Crimsonblaze says:

            No haven’t met him yet.

            • lifesablaze says:

              Crimson – I may have seen her come out of the WalMart the other day. She had a friend with her. Her friend was wearing a University of John Coffey t-shirt and had a big Bowie knife on her hip. They got into a lifted pearl white Jeep Cherokee with a Cobra emblem on the front quarter panel. The radio was blasting Queen’s ‘Bicycle’ but i think she was humming the theme song to Green Acres. Ever the saftey girl, she put on her sparkling hot pink helmet and they took off. They stopped at the corner and gave 5 dollars to some guy flyin a sign that said “Will work for autographed copy of ‘The Works of Laurence Stern’ ” They all three laughed and hugged and started singing ‘Over the River and Through the Woods’. As they drove away I noticed the bumper sticker said – Ghost Rider’s Best Girl. But I could barely make it out because it was covered in mud.

    • lifesablaze says:

      I do a lot of beadwork. If I miss a bead it will mess up the whole pattern. Even if you can’t see it, I know it’s there. I have been known to go back many rows, even though it costs hours of time.

      I am certain Alf Razzell was never amused.

  59. Iceman says:

    I thought to offer some unsolicited help with clue number 9 … “You dance with the one who brung ya.”

  60. Crimsonblaze says:

    Dance with the devil on a pale moonlight?

  61. David here says:

    Thanks Mr Fenn and Jenny
    This summer will be interesting.
    I notice things, Its all about details.
    The book signing for TFTW was Oct 1, 2013
    I was there, a great time was had by all.
    Thanks again Mr Fenn

  62. Jdiggins says:

    My gut feeling is that someone will find it this summer.

    My gut feeling is this makes me sad.
    And not cause I didn’t find it.

    • Focused says:

      Well, my gut feeling is that your not giving up jdiggins, I know you better than that 🙂
      The chase is not over just because he has a gut feeling… heck, I have gut feelings all the time, sometimes I’m right, sometimes I’m wrong…
      Now let’s get chasing…. have a great night my friend…. until next time.. see ya

      • Jdiggins says:

        You’re right about both. I’m not giving up, and the chase will never be “over”. It will always be in my heart.
        Just like you and your kind words and compassion.
        Until next time my friend…

    • Iron Will says:

      If I found it, would you still be sad? 😛
      Forrest is correct, you need a physical presence to fulfill the final clue.
      I only figured it out one week ago… as it was staring at me the entire time.
      All of this time I’ve been looking for a light to show me the location, but I should’ve been ….

      Well, regardless… I hope you and Bill (got it right first try) are having an incredibly warm winter. 😀

  63. lifesablaze says:

    The little girl from India brought this elephant with her when she came over.

    Forrest, you mention during your gallery days much of your time was spent dealing with a constant stream of Indian traders. The nature of this site deals with mysterious questions and insights into different cultures and their practices. I am curious, if you have ever experienced any type of ‘presence’ through your artifacts. You know, something that might set the coyotes to yipping. If so, do you keep a bit of tobacco in Sitting Bull’s peace pipe for such an encounter?

    • Brad Hartliep says:

      LB –

      When F talks about the children’s dolls he collected, he talks about them (coming alive when he is alone with them) telling him their story .. I don’t know if F would ever admit it, but I would call that a ‘presence’ .. a Native American Spirit if you will .. it could be the Spirit of the doll .. or it could be the Spirit of the child that owned the doll .. If you pick up a rock, or any object of Nature, and hold it in your palm, and study it long enough, and be willing to listen to it, it will begin to tell you its story .. all objects will .. if you give them your undivided attention .. and believe that they are alive .. and can speak to you .. the life within them will trust you .. and begin to reveal itself ..

      I think F has had many such interactions ..

      B ..

  64. Cocoa nut says:

    Detours? Let me tell ya about detours. Detours are for smart people.
    I had a friend named George once.
    We used to yell to him,
    “Watch out for that tree!”

    • Farcus says:

      “Detours” is an odd word selection. It is almost like he is talking about the solver’s detour. The solver who will recover the chest this summer. It could read “I enjoy wondering how my life would be different if (the solver) had not taken a detour when it was available.” Is the detour by choice or by design? Could this have ended sooner?

    • Stade says:

      Coconut, Thanks for reviving a funny old memory…George of the jungle cartoon. That sparked another memory of this character:

    • JC1117 says:

      Hello, Cocoa Nut.

      De tour? I’d love to take de tour! What time does it leave? And is it a 3 hour tour…per chance? 🙂

      Speaking of George…my kids love this scene…

      • Stade says:

        Thanks JC1117, That was grrreAte!

      • Cocoa nut says:

        That’s great.
        I had this image of a coconut, because of my chosen screen name, falling on ol’ George’s head after he hit the tree.
        Yes, good stuff.

        I love clean humor. It’s so much more imaginative than the “shock humor” so prevalent these days.
        And when a kid’s eyes light up and they laugh, it don’t get any better than that. 🙂

  65. Michelle Patcg says:

    I will film it all for you Forrest. Everything beautiful I can find.

  66. Jdiggins says:

    “The final clue, he said, would be where they found his car: in the parking lot of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science.”

    From above:
    “Rocking chair ideas can lead one to the first few clues, but a physical presence is needed to complete the solve. Google Earth cannot help with the last clue.”

    “My gut feeling is that someone will find it this summer.”

    “After I hid the treasure I never went back to that spot, and now I can’t.”

    How would you tie these together?
    What did the final clue change to? Is it similar to the previous? Is that why GE can’t help?
    Why can’t he go back now, as opposed to being able to up until now? I don’t think it has to do with his age…do You?

    • crimsonblazeblog says:

      6 more questions, 6 more questions to go, 6 more questions and noone still dont know. nananananana

    • Stade says:

      Jdiggins, those are excellent questions…to which I have no answer. One thing is certain in my mind… the spot we all seek looks like TTOTC page 133 on which FF arranged his gold nuggets to confirm THE PLACE. I’ve been looking for the triangle formed the golden frog’s nose & eyes for four years and finally spied them on Google Earth.

    • Chesney says:

      I believe it may have a bit to do with his agility, but let’s take the following into consideration:

      A searcher goes to the “general solve”, and is being all “Marine Recon”. Upon the searcher being sneaky on private property, so if they are wrong, there are no fines. Mr. Fenn rolls up to check on his stash, gone or not… “Busted”! :

      • crimsonblazeblog says:

        A physical presence, ribbit.

      • Jdiggins says:

        But is it that someone will find the treasure? The treasure chest? Or just it?

        • crimsonblazeblog says:

          i say stick with the theme, me in the middle.

          • Jdiggins says:

            The me middle.
            Yeah…i got both ends..not the middle.

            • Chesney says:

              It is a “Metaphor” for Mr. Fenn. I am going to say too much here, but DILLIGAF! If you find the correct “General Solve”, he created a gallery that William Shakespeare would have had a heck of a time recreating. The elevation is not 5000 ft above sea level, but a 5000 ft hike from HOB. Following me still? Mr. Fenn is in the middle, but because he felt “inferior” to his brother and sister. He is still living! His siblings are gone ( another metaphor ) !

              What it all boils down to is this all IMO:

              Mr. Fenn, always tried to do everything he could to impress his family, bent over backwards to try to “do the right thing”. I will pause here to say that he likely will not read this because it is too long. There are “No Shortcuts” in the “Chase”, but he finds and uses them.

  67. Lisa Cesari says:

    Regarding that Blacksmith Detour, maybe Shiloh will fly Forrest to Driggs, Idaho:

  68. Chesney says:

    Only 2 people know now? And then after the passing of ?. Only one, again. Quite rhetorical, yes! But if the person goes there in “Confidence” thay he/ she is correct in their solve, then the only “right thing to do”, is send or return the “Row Bracelet”!

  69. fallingrock says:

    Today as I went up the stair, I met a man who wasn’t there. He wasn’t there again today, oh how I wish he’d go away.

  70. fallingrock says:

    When I came home last night at three,
    The man was waiting there for me
    But when I looked around the hall,
    I couldn’t see him there at all!
    Go away, go away, don’t you come back any more!
    Go away, go away, and please don’t slam the door…

  71. fallingrock says:

    Last night I saw upon the stair,
    A little man who wasn’t there,
    He wasn’t there again today
    Oh, how I wish he’d go away…

  72. fallingrock says:

    Folding pages twice one way
    I think he’s from the CIA

  73. fallingrock says:

    Binocular guy could be a nod to the guy who wrote Animal Farm. Back in a 1984 issue of Mad magazine. When you fold the pages do you see a rock, a lighthouse, and a restaurant?

  74. Iceman says:

    The word “remotest” is suspect here I’m thinking. But I like it.

  75. lifesablaze says:


    Remote test – “But I am comfortable with the thought that eventually all 8 will be found.”

    Mote – a speck of dust in a gold prospector’s pan.

    Or this is interesting –

    • lifesablaze says:

      I think we are being asked to remember our stewardship towards Earth.

      A lot can be done to improve our world and the qualities of life for All. The chase involves individual choices of character that reveal (vvv) our personal motivations.

      I think of it as using the precious contents to expand Forrest’s plans exponentially.

    • passenger says:

      “that has happened beyond my remotest expectations.” You need to understand what that is, and the precursor to it. But ultimately it doesn’t matter anyway. Like you said, it’s just a test.

  76. Farcus says:

    I watched the AGK video the other day. Toby was twisting it somehow that Fenn watched his videos and now he thinks they are the finders. He went on to say everyone thinks that way because we all want it to be us that Fenn is referring to and this kind of reveal promotes the chase. Is it most likely that none of us have it correct, are we all blinded by denial, must we all go through the 5 stages of acceptance before we believe what has just been told to us? What does this mean?

    Fenn’s pattern of behaviour over many years indicates it is none of us:
    -2 clues & 500 feet since the beginning (many people have done this)
    -200 feet 2013/14, only one or two
    -2015: “thee or four clues maybe” by one search party indicates significant break through
    -Dec 2016: several short emails saying the right things (likely from 2 clue barrier breaker)
    -2017: refusal to answer progress indicating someone either solved it or was very close. Fenn pull back from providing more hints. “nothing else left to say”, “Final interview”
    -2108: “gut feeling” will be found this summer and can’t be solved by armchair solution. Indicating the solver is one of the rare people who “precisely” whispered to him the correct spot and they likely have been doing it over many years and finally nailed it and they both know it.

    Fenn’s pattern indicates the solver has been inching closer over a few years. Been on the ground at the correct spot more than once. Indicating why Fenn said the searcher will walk to the treasure so confidently. First or second BOTG to gather clues, then solve it at home and then the final time to retrieve the chest.

    We all want it to be us but unfortunately it can’t be. Fenn acknowledges many will be heartbroken and he has witnessed what the chase can do to people so he is kindly indicating the end of the chase is near and it is none of us. So we need to resign ourselves to this inevitability and prepare ourselves emotionally for the ultimate disappointment.

    Maybe by that time we can celebrate together the chase in a positive way and take this summer to enjoy the mountains with our families as Fenn intended.

    • Beef stew says:

      Bravo, very good post. I have said this several times over the last few months that he began to avoid some of the questions regarding searcher progress where as in the past he would jump all over them and use the no one has solved beyond two clues. I do not have a current solve, never sent him a solve, nor have I really made heads or tails of the poem ever so I feel I have been able to judge some of his words more objectively without trying to confirm my own personal wants. I agree that the person has been near the spot as well on purpose but I also believe the original people who were 200 feet were not. I think they have been there because not only would someone have to send a correct solve but also would have to show that they travel to the spot or atleast are willing to physically search and not just once or there would be no way of feeling they would go back. I do have a personal feeling that whoever it is does not participate actively on the blogs and for some reason I feel they will be a bit newer to the search.

      Great post and from me to whoever this someone is of it is true congratulations because this is quite the achievement that so many people have tried for quite some time.

      • Jake says:

        Beef Stew- Thank you. 🙂

      • DeerX2 says:

        Farcus and Beef stew: Great abstractions.
        We will find out this summer why i say this.

      • Pointfoot says:

        Beef Stew and Farcus your words have a way of sinking in after a while. I’ve been pondering if we are at the end for some time and I have to say you may both be right. Considering how many of us have been stumped and are still stumped after so many years it must be quite the exceptional solve. I can’t help but wonder what is in store for the finder. And I hope the solution will be revealed eventually.

        It’s been an amazing journey for me and my family these past three years. In light of the above we are planning at least one family trip this summer though we may take some detours and explore some new destinations. There is a whole world to discover out there.

        Blessings to all searchers and may your journeys lead to all kinds of treasures along the way.

    • I am the 1 says:

      First or second BOTG to gather clues, then solve it at home and then the final time to retrieve

      Absolutely correct. 2 times. 3rd to retrieve. Great guess.

    • Iceman says:

      Farcus … good insight. I’m beginning to think there may be more that one searcher that’s solved the poem.

      • Zaphod73491 says:

        That is my persistent worry — that he got too bold with his hints in OUAW.

      • Sleuth says:

        I wonder if FF has privately hinted to ensure retrieval by person he selects, rather than legitimate searcher who is at the doorstep. This could explain confidence regarding summer. Is the deck stacked ?

        • Iceman says:

          You need not question the integrity of Forrest Fenn or US Military pilots in general. Without blind trust, you have no chance of finding the treasure.

        • Beef stew says:

          Why would he go through the trouble of just hinting. He could literally just tell them and not one of us would be the wiser. People believe everything he says is a hint because everyone has different solves and different ideas of how to solve clues. The truth is nobody knows if anything is a hint because nobody actually can confirm what any of the clues are. We are all just guessing. But back to original point, I do not believe he is helping anybody but I think there will always be negativity aligned with the person who does solve it from some of the searchers because of many reasons mainly jealousy.
          Haters gonna hate. The line about haters is not directed towards you sleuth for this comment, unless you intend to sully the finder whoever it might be, without any shred of actual evidence of them not just being smarter and having better ideas than the rest of us.

  77. Pointfoot says:

    Farcus that was perhaps one of the wisest posts I’ve seen in a while. I think that is the right attitude. My wife and I along with our girls plan to go this upcoming season on another amazing adventure. Will we find it? Who knows? The point is the chase and not the quarry. Many believe I’m crazy for continuing to go on more treasure hunting trips but I’m still having a blast. I think those who don’t go are all crazy for not wanting to get out there and be a part of this amazing chase. Learn to live on the edge a little. And go enjoy some amazing places out in the wilderness. Isn’t that what it’s really all about? Who cares if any of us are the ones or not whom Forrest is hinting at. Treasures are waiting to be found on any journey one chooses to make.

  78. Iceman says:

    Remotest => test more, more test, remote test, retest, (double) test, tester, test, steer, store, tree, rest, most, stem, trot, rot, otter, storm, tom, me, ROM, tot, tee, meet, tote, steem … Just think about the possibilities.

    • JC1117 says:

      Hello, Iceman.

      It was a great day ice fishing in Wyoming. I think you would have enjoyed it…or judging by your name…it wouldn’t have bothered you that it was quite cold.

      I like your brainstorming. Forrest sure makes a person think…into the remotest corners of our minds. And that’s just one of the amazing things about him.

      I wonder sometimes if Forrest employs powers of Remote Viewing.

      It wouldn’t surprise me. I’ve seen quite a number of times where he seems to have done that…

      …and his “gut feeling”? It’s very interesting to watch.

  79. Stade says:

    Farcus, beef, point, ice: one last possibility for all to consider: one has correctly mapped and sent Forrest the exact locations of the the chest, the trove, gold BUT because of their location(s) on Fenns PRIVATE and “very dear” property the lone winner is convinced Fenn never wanted it found, he didn’t believe one could solve his puzzle… and the winner simply walked away – unselfishly allowing ff to take it with him as he planned.

    • Stade says:

      If that scenario did happen, it would be sad if ff didn’t keep his word to give that person the “special item” Forrest said he reserved for the person who solved the poem.

    • Farcus says:

      It is plausible that there is an unselfish searcher who solved it, which could explain Fenn’s gut feeling and why it has not been retrieved backed by this comment:
      “There are many avid searchers looking for the treasure who are not blinded by its value.”
      Good thinking Stade!

    • Brad Hartliep says:

      It would be interesting to know if Fenn truly wanted Bronze Beauty Retrieved .. or if solving the poem to his satisfaction is enough to fulfill his desires ..

      Is he happy that someone has deciphered his Poem? .. Or is he surprised to anger? .. or disappointment? .. Maybe because of trespass? .. Or because they’ve violated the Rules of Good Stewardship? .. Trampled the sands of a rare flower? .. or disturbed a baby deer in its sleep? ..

      Is disrupting the Laws of Nature to retrieve a man-made item for the sake of bettering a persons’ lives and the lives of those connected .. acceptable? At a small cost to Nature? .. Or is the act of leaving Nature undefiled – at the loss of a million to feed a few hungry – the better choice? ..

      Given time, Nature restores itself – as long as the damage is not severe – such as a mountain of tailings – or a mile wide graded road .. What is acceptable human behavior to Forrest? .. When, in his eyes, do we go too far? .. And if we’ve gone too far already .. are we allowed to return? .. or must we pass the baton to the next? .. to someone more deserving? .. who shows more respect to the Land? ..

      Has “Modernism” destroyed our ability to commune with Nature? .. To Respect the Past? .. Or are we doing more damage than good? ..

      B ..

      • Stade says:

        With respect Brad, your question is one each searcher should ask “when do we go to far disrupting nature?” Because it’s the right thing to do to steward our earth, not because ff is who we are trying to please.

        However, the question you are focused on… “what is acceptable human behavior to Fenn?” Imo has been answered by ff … He opened pandora’s box by declaring the treasure may or may not be buried. He knew people would dig all over the Rockies. Additionally your question may be hutful to the 4 families who have lost fathers, husband’s searching for Fenns treasure that “is wet.” Three men have been swept to their death in rivers. Forrest stated he does not feel responsible. Therefore, logically one can deduce from ffs statements that he is unconcerned with our behaviors.

        • JC1117 says:

          I disagree with your conclusion, Stade.

          Just because Forrest doesn’t feel personally responsible…as he logically and rightfully should not…does not mean that he is “unconcerned”.

          I believe is highly concerned with human behavior…which is quite shocking most of the time.

          It’s these same self-centered attitudes that are destroying the planet…and much of life on it.

          • JC1117 says:

            Correction: I believe HE…Forrest…is highly concerned.

          • Stade says:

            JC1117 Please carefully tread on this ground – 4 people are dead. Their families may still read this. you speak of ffs concern for all life on the planet but ignore the 4 human lives lost while searching for the box of gold. I agree that Forrest is not responsible for others actionss leading to death, but his ttotc dare and explicit words, the treasure is wet – without question were the impetus.

            If ff had a premonition or knew that another human would die and this time it would be an innocent, unguarded child while parents were overly focused on searching for his treasure… would he put out a stronger statement for searchers to stay away from fast water and out of grizzly country…or just continue being the impetus for his treasure hunt.
            I know Forrest would agree that…Saving the life of a child is as important as conservation efforts.

            • JC1117 says:

              Hello, Stade.

              Please accept my apology if what I what I wrote appears…on the surface…to be insensitive. I knew it could be interpreted that way. I am neither insensitive nor unconcerned.

              Accidents do happen…sadly.

              What I was really…and only…trying to convey was that ALL ground should be treaded upon lightly and respectfully…and some ground even more lightly and respectfully than others.

            • pdenver says:

              Hello Stade. Your post struck me in such a way that you and others may not understand. If my words could touch everyone’s ears in this search, I would be forever grateful. I hope everyone will be safe while searching, and most importantly, please keep an eye on your children. They’re beautiful and very curious young people.

            • filmguy says:

              Is it four? Or five?

      • JDA says:


        It is my belief that Forrest romped these hills both as a boy, and then in later life. His “Romping” left marks of one kind or another. Who knows, he might of even left his “mark” on a tree or boulder, just to say that he had been there. I doubt that Forrest is much concerned about the “Finder” moving a rock or two, or even brushing against a sage, and even breaking a branch.

        Mother Nature had great healing powers, but one must be respectful of her all the same.

        Were I to find Indulgence, Forrest and I (together) will have to decide whether to divulge the exact location. Too much trampling by too many people could hurt the delicate landscape. But, first things first – I have to find it. Just musings of an earth concious old guy – JDA

  80. Brad Hartliep says:

    Origin and Etymology of avid:

    French avide, from Latin avidus, from avēre to desire, crave; akin to Welsh ewyllys desire, Old Irish con-oí he protects ..

    The Finer Points of avid

    The original and now relatively unfamiliar sense of avid, “desirous to the point of greed,” developed from avēre (meaning “to long for”) ..

    More common today is the word’s somewhat weakened and ameliorated (given a more positive connotation) meaning “extremely enthusiastic” ..

    • lifesablaze says:

      Blackbeard, Billy the Kid and a gang of Indian traitors walk into a bar on Electric Avenue. “Bartender, tequila for me and my friends!”

      The bartender swivels to view the rowdy crew and replies, “We haven’t had that spirit here since 1969.”

      Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekt growls in the corner.

  81. Johnny Boyd says:

    A searcher would have to be insane to leave it. People are DYING trying to find this box. To call the winner selfish for taking it is selfish in and of itself. To remove it and come forward would take a great weight off Fenn’s shoulders. He never expected that anyone would die looking for it. Good can be done with the money it will fetch, and good can be done by removing it. Sure, we’ll all be disappointed that it wasn’t us that found the box, but the Rocky Mountains will still be there for people not blindly motivated solely by its value as the reason to visit.

  82. Jdiggins says:

    Re tired
    They keep a lot of spare tires in the trunk.

    • Jdiggins says:

      Re tired
      Kept spare tires in the trunk.
      The limousine had a flat tire.
      The new bullet needed new tires.
      I’ve done it tired…


  83. I am the 1 says:

    So y is “IT” that I should go! The first blaze!

  84. Crimsonblaze says:

    I am the 1, pleased to meet ya. I am glad you came forth to claim your prize. Have you set the date yet?

  85. Jdiggins says:

    I have an initial thought…

    “I am rarely told exactly where people are searching so I don’t know if they are getting closer or not.”

    Someone sent him a picture.
    The I’s have it.

  86. TomTom says:

    If I were to be the fortunate finder I would seriously deliberate to not have any plans to sell any part of the chest nor the contents as it is a very special trove. Hypothetically, I would not consider myself the new owner but instead I would declare myself the new and entrusted steward who was appointed to watch over the box. How would one suppose they could impose a tax on someone who does not claim ownership? Although money is well needed in my day to day activities at the moment; I believe there are more than a few ways I would be able to generate income from having solved the poem and unveiled indulgence. Imagination.
    Just a few thoughts in the steady stream on Jenny’s site where things are happening…thank you all!

  87. fallingrock says:

    “I am rarely told… I don’t know if they…”

    They those that tell exactly where they are searching or they the searchers who don’t tell exactly where they are searching? He can’t know if they don’t tell him.

  88. Madesquare says:

    We my see soon enough what’s in the card

  89. Iceman says:

    Show’em your map. No words are needed if it THE place.

  90. I am the 1 says:

    The end is ever drawing nigh…..

    Standing at the river, go left or right?
    Right= water infinitely and constantly running towards you= the end is ever drawing nigh!

    • crimsonblazeblog says:

      Awesome, you truly are the chosen one. I would have never thought of that. Be very careful you don’t end up right at wal-mart.

      • I am the 1 says:

        Lol. Funny… love the hating and sarcasm. Ill love it more in May though. Gonna be absolutely hilarious to find out someone was actually posting the correct solve and people like you were laughing at it. That’s funny

        • crimsonblazeblog says:

          I’m not hating just offering some friendly advice. Sorry, I won’t interrupt you anymore.

          • I am the 1 says:

            All good Mr sarcastic…. didn’t interrupt anything. And the simple fact that you think a giant IT with an upside down “go in piece sign” on the side of a cliff is normal….. matching the exact words to a poem is even funnier. Actually I understand why nobody has gotten no where now and why I’ve sat back for a year reading and not posting…. but hey good luck with that intuition!
            That IT IS ACTUALLY THE BEGINNING OF THE “playing field”. Botg. But what do I know , I only solved 95% so far without being wrong once. Lol

            • Beef stew says:

              I believe someone has solved it, and your solve is very interesting. With all of the confidence you have are you not worried someone else will get to the spot before you?

              • crimsonblazeblog says:

                No I am not worried atall lol

              • I am the 1 says:

                Anything is possible big beef.

                • crimsonblazeblog says:

                  Boy howdy you got that right, I think some one snuck in there in the middle of a coal black night and stole it right out from under forrest fenn’s nose and hes just now starting to figure it out. That is why he not feeling good lately. Someone got his precious and did the disappearing act.

              • DeerX2 says:

                Beef stew, Someone may have solved it, but not the 1.

                A 95% partial is not a confident solve. A real solve will not need a couple more BOTGs before retrieval.

                Fenn said the solver will go directly to it — no variables, no detours, no more or lesses, perhapses, maybes, options, nor hesitations. A 100% sure solver will hit the ground running to the TC.

                Listen to Forrest.

                Fenn said if the seeker is 12′ from TC, there’s no way he will not find it. [Paraphrased] So, if your hidey place is not a tight 6′ radius spot before your retrieval BOTG, you need to line up few more exploratory solves.

                Always listen to Forrest.

                He is the only one that knows. Well, now, perhaps another person knows it too. Just his gut feeling.

                Forrest always listens to his gut, …so should we.

                • Beef stew says:

                  All very good stuff Deer x. I can only imagine how anxious the person is who solved it that is if someone has. Knowing only being a few months away from such a big achievement just needing some snow to melt and Mother Nature to aid in the final steps of such a thrilling chase.

                • Pointfoot says:

                  I spent a moment pondering the person who may be waiting with the winning solve in hand. Would they feel different now than any of us when we thought we had it figured out? Would anyone believe they had it figured out? Or would everyone scoff at the very thought they could figure it out. It will be interesting to hear their story.

                • I am the 1 says:

                  Lmao… Uh yea listen to forrest!!! Last clue requires botg!!! Right? Lol… can’t be 100% until you solve the last clue correct? Calm down deer x2 big boys are talkin, your statement makes no sense. It’s impossible to have 100% beforehand… thanks for that!

          • Focused says:

            I am the 1, what crimsonblazeblog was referring to I believe was a quote by Forrest in Jenny’s “weekly words”…. paraphrasing “ if you share your solve with a friend, don’t be surprised if she shops at Gucci while you fill your cart at Walmart “….
            I personally take crimsonblazeblog’s comment as a compliment to you, not in any way “hating” your post….

            Ok, I’m done….. carry on…. see ya

        • lifesablaze says:

          I am the 1 – you’re IT 4 shore! Chuckle chuckle

        • dejoka says:

          I am the 1,

          Not laughing, just suggesting a tamp down on the confidence and enthusiasm for the sake of possible confirmation bias and avoiding the bitter taste of crow.

  91. Strawshadow says:

    “The mood is wisely and rightly averse from every form of shallow or premature exultation. This is no time for boasts or glowing prophecies, but there is this—a year ago our position looked forlorn, and well nigh desperate, to all eyes but our own. Today we may say aloud before an awe-struck world, ‘We are still masters of our fate. We still are captain of our souls.'”
    PS, Thank you Mr. Churchill

  92. Lugnutz says:

    My biggest take away from this Thread of the Usual Suspects is as follows.

    I have a gut feeling for beef stew.


  93. ron ricker says:

    hello all,
    does anybody have any thoughts about digging in a burial site?
    (with and/or without material blindness set aside)
    please comment.

    • pdenver says:

      Hello Ron. Mr. Fenn has stated in the past that the treasure chest isn’t in a grave yard. Some searchers have argued about the meaning of this statement.

    • Iceman says:

      Ron –
      It’s definitely not buried in a graveyard. Don’t be digging up the grave sites. It’s not a good testimony for the Chase.

  94. pdenver says:

    Reread the questions and answers, and I wanted to go back and look in the book, “Too Far To Walk”, Chapter One, “Toys Are Forever” to look at the photos of the family home. I tried to imagine seeing all of this happening. It looked like it was a really nice home.

  95. NearIndianaJones says:

    I am the 1, it may behoove you to hear what many searchers are trying to pass on to you, from their, and my experience with the chase.
    IMO, we have all at one point or another, felt 90-100% sure in our interpretation of the poem, and enough so that we go BOTG with confidence. However, being 100% sure in our own interpretation is not the same as being 100% correct in regards to Forrest’s, and learning how to swallow the bitter pill of pride, is what many here may be trying to impart to you.
    It is good you feel such confidence, without it, why even try? If I may, share some of my experience with you, “It ain’t over till the fat lady sings”, and with respect, keep in mind the posibility you don’t know jack squat. It makes it easier to swallow the bitter pill of pride. If you are the 1 or not, try to remember we all have feelings, and are all emotionally vested with the chase. Simply put, treat other searchers as you would want to be treated.
    Welcome to the chase, and possibly the worlds biggest dysfunctional family, LOL, in my opinin 🙂

    • Dampenedmyth says:

      Great advice NearIndianaJones! We really are possibly the world’s biggest dysfunctional family. Sometimes it reminds me a bit of my family just on a larger scale. At the end of the day no one knows what tomorrow will bring. I’ve learned to treat every day as a gift and wish good things for all who cross my path. I feel everything I have is more than I deserve. At the end of every day I simply feel blessed and am thankful.

    • TomTom says:

      Well spoken Indiana, thank you for sharing.

      I got in this thing about a year and a half ago and even quit my job last January to do this thing fulltime.

      It has been a both a rewarding and life encompassing journey. Three expeditions are behind me now and now I must find the money and chose someone to assist me in my fourth.

      Having gone out each time with such confidence and returning empty-handed has earned me a degree in crazy in even some close friends minds…and of course some family too. Lucky for me, I was already quite well versed in that sort of external perception long before I entered The Chase; the sum of which has taught me how to stand tall in the midst of the naysayers, hecklers and the like, and has helped me realize that my confidence doesn’t come from them anyway, so what do I care what they may think? We all need a rock to fall on and I have made mine the Rock of Ages.

      To “I’m the 1” I would say that confidence has its place when accompanied by knowledge, but remember that deeper knowings sometimes come through many whippings and humiliations until we have been trained to walk circumspectly…and then comes riches untold as your Joy will unfold.

      Blessings to all as the Chase continues!
      “Gut feeling” huh…maybe cat-gut fishing line to reel one in? Lol.

    • I am the 1 says:

      I understand completely. But you have to realize. I am not new at all. I have stayed off all blogs for 2 years, reading and analyzing everyone and everything. Trust me I’ve seen 1000 false flags I know people react with the same reaction to most but this isn’t that.
      I have never guessed anything. I haven’t written a college thesis about brown or history for my solve like most. The poem is built in layers. Honestly when forrest announced it could be found in the first few clues it gave everyone the shortcut, which I didn’t have that luxury. I found wwwh and the first layer of the solve in 17 hours. Then 2 more after that. I’ve found the It, Y, I and then the real blaze. Me and my daughter were asking why for 8 months why forrest didn’t alert anyone in the chase how close we were and now I think I see why. I’m not God, I’m not the know it all. I’m just really good at solving things and I’ve been devouring this poem since I found it that’s all. I see the poem differently I guess. I see

      Treasures= as u are in trees
      Listen= L is ten
      I can’t post anything else but just an example.

      I’ve already put up one of the most important pics for all the searchers on all 3 blogs just to be nice and try to help because I did figure it out. Not bragging at all but I’ve spent months staying up til 3 in the morning listening to pandora deciphering this labyrinth. All 100% focus and all I ever used was the poem and a map. Ive put botg twice and each time was 40% completion, ive never guessed at all. If forrest reads this blog and sees i posted that and not 1 person sees what i see well then i suppose it kinda does make me special i guess….Good luck everyone!!!!
      Oh and another problem is the 1st 4 lines of the poem 90% disregard. Forrest has told everyone all the answers are in the poem right?. So if the 1st clue is wwwh well there has to be something in the poem that tells you where it is right. Every question has an answer in the poem. Good luck dudes and dudettes!!!!

  96. Iceman says:

    The finder most likely won’t be a braggart, because solving the Chase and retrieving the treasure looks to be a very humbling experience. My opinion.

    • Crimsonblaze says:

      Among other things

    • Dampenedmyth says:

      Indeed. I completely agree. The chase serves healthy portions of humble pie to all who chose to play. I can’t imagine one can solve it without going through their fair share. A true testament to the true genius of Forrest Fenn.

      • NearIndianaJones says:

        I myself have gone through many phases while searching, long hikes with backpack loaded, sleeping bag, and shovel ready. Searching high and low, while everyone else enjoyed the beauty of just being there. Not this time, should I make it to search this year, without having to stress the homefront and myself, I plan on taking a fishing pole, pen, and paper. Not looking to dig, just fish, and write something worth while, pen a poem or something. I just want to enjoy being there, and not feel guilty when I return home empty handed.

  97. Crimsonblaze says:

    Everyone’s confidence level is dependent on what you know. Not what you haven’t learned yet. Until you pas the test you never know what you know.
    Just for conversation sake, how many clues, hints, weekly words, random words, quotes, and scrapbooks, book books must a person know and understand to have the confidence to walk directly to the treasure chest with a smile on your face?

    • Afana says:

      The End is ever drawing nigh. All the clues can be solved from home, but One only needs BOTG to recognize the last. IMO

      • Iceman says:

        No. You need info from the site to solve the chase. It can’t be solved on site unless you plan on camping out for a long long time. My opinion.

        • Afana says:

          Iceman, thank you for your reply. Ones solve needs to be complete before BOTG. Only then, with BOTG will one recognize tarry scant with marvel gaze, and I’m not referring to the chest. IMO

  98. Iceman says:

    I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, the biggest mistake searchers make is underestimating Forrest Fenn.

    • pdenver says:

      Hello Iceman. In what way? Intellectual? Physical? Something else searchers aren’t considering?

      • Iceman says:

        Pdenver –
        Logical thinking, hard work, imagination … and intelligence.

        • pdenver says:

          Hello Iceman. I appreciate your response and see the possibilities to consider not to underestimate Mr. Fenn. I for one do not. I just don’t know if I’m overthinking his abilities when he hid the treasure chest.

  99. crimsonblazeblog says:

    I cant imagine why they would do that. I would think that most underestimate the poem. Maybe its both.

  100. passenger says:

    Yes, with so many hints over the years, it’s difficult to know the correct order of things. Everything melds together and all places tie in.

    Well, take me back down where cool water flows.
    Let me remember things I love,
    Stoppin’ at the log where catfish bite,
    Walkin’ along the river road at night,
    Barefoot girls dancin’ in the moonlight.

    I can hear the bullfrog callin’ me.
    Wonder if my rope’s still hangin’ to the tree.
    Love to kick my feet ‘way down the shallow water.
    Shoefly, dragonfly, get back t’your mother.
    Pick up a flat rock, skip it across Green River.

    Up at Cody’s camp I spent my days, oh,
    With flat car riders and cross-tie walkers.
    Old Cody, Junior took me over,
    Said, “You’re gonna find the world is smould’rin’.
    And if you get lost come on home to Green River.”

    Come on home.

    • JC1117 says:

      Hello, Passenger.

      Your words reminded me of something…

      “All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes you see something you weren’t noticing which makes you see something that isn’t even visible.” – Norman Maclean

      Is that imagination…or Spirits Communicating?

      • Dampenedmyth says:

        I enjoyed reading that JC1117. Thank you for sharing. I like the following quote too.

        “Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.“

        • JC1117 says:

          I’m glad you liked it, Dampenedmyth.

          A couple of my favorites…

          “In the slanting sun of late afternoon the shadows of great branches reached from across the river, and the trees took the river in their arms. The shadows continued up the bank, until they included us.”

          “One of life’s quiet excitements is to stand somewhat apart from yourself and watch yourself softly becoming the author of something beautiful…”

      • Strawshadow says:

        Thanks JC1117, nice link. The shadow cast may be a little Hollywood but the tug on the Zug Bug doesn’t know that.

  101. passenger says:

    Visibility relies on having eyes. With imagination you can see the spirits at night… and that is atonement after eighty years.

  102. Sparrow says:

    I just wanted t0 re-post something for I am the 1 and anyone else that may a bit to over-confident in their solves. I’ve prepared these a few times now with humble pie for dessert. It can be a wonderful meal—your tears can actually serve as the salt.

    Summer Crow Kabobs


    16 pieces of crow breast meat (no bones) (8 crows)
    16 pieces of green pepper
    16 cherry tomatoes
    8 button mushrooms
    8 ears of sweet corn
    1 1/2 cups of Teriyaki sauce
    1/2 cup melted butter
    8 kabob skewers
    Cut each piece of crow in half and place in a covered bowl with the Teriyaki sauce over night. Clean and cut each ear of corn into 3 pieces. Cook in boiling salt water for 10 minutes. Alternately put corn (3 pieces), green peppers (3 pieces) and cherry tomatoes (3) along with 4 pieces of crow meat on each skewer. Use 1 mushroom to top each skewer. Brush with melted butter and place on preheated grill for about 4 minutes. Flip, butter again and place back on grill for another 4 minutes. Repeat one last time for a total of 12 minutes or until they appear done. Serves four adults.

    • Jenny Kile says:

      lol… I’m sure we all can use this recipe a few times in our life…. not just for Chase related reasons… Best keep it in front of the recipe box so we have it when needed.

      Thanks Sparrow!

    • Bailey says:

      My Dad yells. One time he yelled “If your not messing up every once in while, your not doing anything.” So true. I agree with Jenny. This is a great proverbial recipe to sweeten and juicen everything, including the Chase. But as delicious as this recipe sounds, eating crow never tastes good (metaphorically speaking). Thanks for your shining optimism Sparrow!!

    • I am the 1 says:

      Hey thanks a lot for the gift of knowing if you fail then everyone else has too. Must be a hundred of these recipes on here. Insecurities from grown men are very abundant on these blogs concerning the chase. If you and 100 or 250,000 of you strike out then the next batter just has too. JUST HAS TOO…I see the emotions erupting from everyone when someone has a confident solve. Very entertaining so thank you.
      For all of you on this blog don’t be so scared. Someone had to solve this sometime. It doesn’t belittle you or Forrest. Only he knows what had to be done and how much work, intelligence, passion and focus this search entailed.

      Not 1 single person said 1 thing positive at all. And my “confidence” was present once the snide, sarcastic, you don’t know s%#$ remarks were made.

      Lol… and yes I had a Correct ” layer” solved in 17 hours , I timed it.
      I have failed over 2 years of decrypting but I never left my front door until I new without a doubt exactly where I was going and which clue I was finding. I understand its unbelievable for someone to possess an intellect to conquer this poem. On the other hand someone had to really know critical info for Fenn to admit the search will end soon right?
      So quick to dismiss someone due to your own choices, understanding and decryption techniques.
      Everyone is not the same, come
      I came on here to help because I’m considerate and I’ve watched and read on here for years.

      I wonder if I chose “Trump lover” as my screen name if I woulda got better reactions? Lol

      No tears here bud. I’m not a searcher.
      I’M THE FINDER, it’s these types of comments that are gonna ruin it for others with answers. Or blogs. I get it! You couldn’t find it. Or A clue for that matter. I get it. I thought I found it twice and was heart broken only to find next clue.

      I prefer jambalaya!

      • Sparrow says:

        I am the 1—

        It helps to have a sense of humor in the Chase. Hey, if you find it congratulations! I really would be happy for you, and would want to know how you did it.

        I put the recipe for crow because I’ve eaten it myself a few times. Nothing wrong with being confident. But I have seen a few on the boards go from confidence to arrogance, and finally to asking for a recipe for crow. But I wish you the best– I sincerely do.

        • Strawshadow says:

          Pray tell, not just your ordinary prattling here, the merry wives of Windsor couldn’t have said it better.

        • I am the 1 says:

          I appreciate that. Look I don’t mean to be offensive. Please understand every person in my life, friends, family, co workers. All of the people suppose to know me and love me have been my biggest negativity from the start. You can’t do it, it’s fake, don’t waste your time, laughs, name callin…. Tell someone your interested in finding hidden treasure in today’s world doesn’t go to well. So after years of it im just tired. I don’t mean to sound arrogant at all, guess I’m just excited, I’ve had watery eyes after every clue found. It’s the greatest thing I’ve done in my life of 40 years besides being single dad of 3. So Thank you

      • Beef stew says:

        I need to interject, I personally have given you a compliment on your intersting solve. I also added that if I was you I wouldn’t give so much information because you may be correct. With that being said if you are correct there would be no need to argue just prove everyone wrong and you will have your victory. In turn, if you are wrong, be ready to deal with quite a bit of taunting.

      • JC1117 says:

        Hello, I am the 1.

        I like your attitude. You sound really confident…and I wish you luck.

        I…for one…hope you find it. I really do.

        Then we can finally learn what it’s all about…

        • I am the 1 says:

          Thank you JC, really appreciate it… confidence is only coming from the extreme fenn mind $#@$ the poem put me through. Chasing a super intelligent wordsmith mind master is no joke. He new every step and thought beforehand… it’s so deep I can’t figure how. He’s the most intellectual man I’ve never

    • Iceman says:

      I think this will hands down become the “official recipe” of The Thrill of the Chase. My opinion.

    • I am the 1 says:

      Wait a sec! Lol
      So you were offering me “the crow failing soup” and knocking my confidence about my solve yet you never even went looking?
      Solved by a magical thinking 12 yr old? Lmao…
      Man you are @ss hurt big time. This virtual room really is a room of projecting insecurities. Why have you ate crow?
      You haven’t even failed yet! What’s going on here? Lol
      It truly demeens all of you that forrests intellect can be challenged but if not by you then has to be a 12 yr old? Or something soooo simple 250,000 people just missed it? I was right. People on here aren’t my type… preaching lessons none of you even learned yet. Ridiculous. I do respect you for admitting you “feel” your not intelligent enough, took guts to admit followed by sarcasm and yes hating.
      No worries I we onto be back on any blog now that I see what and who their for …
      Bunch of sore losers = 12 yr olds

  103. Sparrow says:

    I’ve eaten a couple of hats during my life also. lol

  104. Seannm says:


    “There are many avid searchers looking for the treasure who are not blinded by its value.f”

    “they do not know they seek the chase and not the quarry.” _Blaise Pascal

    This is about the thrill of the chase, not the treasure itself. And those who are blinded by the potential gains in that which they seek, have learned nothing from the thrill in seeking it.


  105. blanche says:

    I am the 1, the great WC once said….

    “When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber.”

    • I am the 1 says:

      Churchill…. Good quote!

      • Aspen Marsh says:

        Well I am the 1 I sure hope so Unless your pregnant !!!

        • I am the 1 says:

          Lol…i don’t get it

          • NearIndianaJones says:

            That our work should speak for itself, and we don’t have to get it right the first, second, or fourty-fifth time. What is important is to keep trying, and humility is honey, much sweeter than crow ka-bobs.
            Here is my crow with a honey glaze.


            • I am the 1 says:

              Oh I get it…. gottcha. More non-challant subtle punches to the ” u had to fail to win like us, your not humble or you couldn’t of done it without failing type jabs” but said in a ” I’m experienced because I was wrong type way”….. yea so I don’t agree on that note….
              Saltines,,,,, anyone?

              failure can come in other lessons in life as well and my life has been filled. Humility once learned through “life” doesn’t have to keep coming through failure or at all in my opinion but everyone has there own and the “chase” is the 1 thing in life other than my kids I haven’t failed at so I can slide you some salt but not gonna join you and Preggers above on the crow.
              That’s just more projecting Indy….
              I personally I00% believe work speaks for itself ” I climb 200ft cell towers daily in all weather BUT if your work isn’t complete or you don’t know what your doing then I don’t believe in teaching the next guy how to do the job, but fully respect you in any case so….

  106. Aspen Marsh says:

    “Where ever you go There you are”

  107. crimsonblazeblog says:

    Forrest, you said “Rocking chair ideas can lead one to the first few clues, but a physical presence is needed to complete the solve. Google Earth cannot help with the last clue.”
    Lately, I built an imaginary cabin in my mind. It has a porch on all four sides so that I may move my rocking chair around and stare blindly into the blizzards, while doing this a question kept popping into my head.
    That question is who is A and can A travel in snow storms or is A a fairweather camper? Do A and can’t travel together? ok I know that is four questions but I sit on all four sides of the cabin.

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