Featured Question with Forrest Fenn on The Thrill of the Chase Treasure Hunt: Know the Limits

treasure hunt in rockiesMr Fenn,

I am reading that several people have been lost while looking for your treasure. On Monday we will go on our first search and we are a little apprehensive. Since you are the only one who knows where it is hidden can you give me some advice that will help keep us safe? ~ Mrs SRM and son.


Yes Mrs. M, your email is timely, and because you are new to the search I will reiterate what has been said many times on blogs and in the media. If you plan to search in a National Forest or a National Park you should ask a ranger to brief you on your particular area. They can advise you much better than I can.

It is easier to get lost or stranded in the winter time because the weather is such a factor. But the spring and summer conditions can be just as unforgiving if you are not prepared.

Please don’t ever overextend yourself. I was 80 or about when I hid the treasure and it was not a difficult task. I will soon be 87 and I could go back and get it if I were so inclined, I think.

If you or your son have any physical limitations please don’t attempt the search. Many flatlanders suffer altitude sickness in the Rockies.

Don’t go into the mountains alone. Two searchers together is an absolute minimum, but three or even four is better. Stay within eyesight of each other. A whistle can be valuable if you get separated.

Food, water, proper clothing, matches, bug spray, and a GPS are requirements. Cell phone service is not available in many mountain locations, but take one anyway. If you do have service check in with a friend at home several times a day, and give them a GPS location. They should know where and when you started your search and when you expect to return.

Wearing waders in fast moving water is dangerous, especially if you don’t have the chest type with a tight belt around your chest that will keep most of the water out if you should fall. The rocks in most moving water are slippery and falling is easy. Your waders should have felt soles and not rubber. Don’t take chances, and remember that in many cases no can be a better answer than yes.

You don’t have to move big rocks, or scale a precipice to get to the treasure. Stay away from dangerous terrain.

The summer sun can sap your strength so it is best to wear long sleeves, long pants, and always a hat, especially in New Mexico. At the first sign of fatigue, turn back. If you are not camping plan to be out of the mountains before dark. If your solve is in the desert, get a new solve, and remember, much of the Rio Grande River is not in the Rocky Mountains.

Generally, black bears are not a problem, and they normally will run at first sight. The grizzly can be a problem but rarely is. If you are hiking, use your whistle so as to not surprise him. If you see cubs quickly move away. It is not a good idea to make eye contact with any dangerous animal because they may see it as a threat. Use bear spray only as a last resort.

Caution and common sense are your best weapons in the mountains. Hope this helps Mrs. M, but you should also do your own research. f



Best of luck with all you seek!  Always Treasure the Adventure!    Stay Safe!

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107 Responses

  1. quakrspecl says:

    Always take care . . . out There!

  2. John Boy says:

    Thank you very much for that information. I had been wondering about the waders. This is all great info.

    • John Boy says:

      Going again soon. I believe I will finally get to my spot to see if it is also your’s. I believe I finally understand the T.S Elliot quote. It wasn’t about us. The quote was about you. You returned to the beginning and new it for the first time.

    • John Boy says:

      wow. I gave a ton of information there and nobody said anything about it. Well I will be back there in September. Hopefully the water levels will be down so that I can get there.

  3. JDA says:

    Thanks Forrest for the reminders. GOOD INFO TO FOLLOW! As I always sat – TRY to STAY SAFE Searchers! JDA

  4. ROLL TIDE says:

    Great advice Forrest.

    SRM … Safety and Risk Management.

  5. DelaYah says:

    Proverbs 4:26  Ponder the path of your feet, and let all your ways be established. 

  6. Mindy says:

    Very good info, and I will add that you aren’t too young or fit to get a blood clot in your calf or lung if flying or driving long distances. Get up and stretch if possible on long flights, and stop every hour to get out and walk a few minutes when driving.

    If you feel very tired or short of breath (that isn’t explained by altitude or lack of sleep) after a long flight or drive, go to the ER ASAP.

    Just had this happen to me!

  7. WyMustIGo says:

    Excellent advice, hopefully everyone heeds it.

    IMO if your search involves any areas that you can not bring a 10 year old, you are wrong. Same thing with 5 mile hikes into the wilderness, I doubt it. Can Forrest do it? Yes, probably even today without the 42 pounds. But he made this chase for people to have fun IMO. It should be no more dangerous than a FAMILY camping adventure.

    I do not think he created it for an olympic athlete. No repelling down cliffs, no fording rushing rivers, no hiking more than perhaps 1 maybe 2 miles away from a human trail.

    If you were to ask me, I would say that when you work the final part of the poem (on foot), it should take you no more than one hour of hiking.

    Also keep in mind that bear spray can also be useful against snakes. Rattle snakes are not out much until it warms up. When its cooler, they will crawl into a hole or shade spot, ball up and wait until their temperature rises. Use a walking stick, if you see one just stop and let it slither by, do NOT stick your hands into holes. Also, in the forest, there are all kinds of animal holes, most covered with leaves/brush, it is VERY easy to twist or break an ankle. Always look down and be aware of your surroundings, especially in limited visibility in dense woods and by water, bears love the water and if you happen upon a cub and mother, you do not want to make them feel threatened.

    Just remember, its all about FUN. Your safety is paramount over any treasure! If you find yourself hours away from civilization, you are taking risks not needed.

    Enjoy the chase! The reward will come if you are at the right place, if not, allow nature to reward you with its beauty.

  8. Jdiggins says:

    Great advise, Forrest.
    I did some of the things on this list the wrong way, and learned from it…thank goodness I didn’t die! 

    “I will soon be 87 and I could go back and get it if I were so inclined, I think.”

    …this interests me. Makes me draw back a mile or so…shoot, maybe I only need to go several steps… 😉

    • Diggin gypsy says:

      lol that’s what I’m thinking he really didn’t walk far at all No more than up to 200 feet I’m

      • Eric says:

        It was a little further than that, but there is actually a hint in his response itself… And you can see the spot from where he parked… js.

    • Jake says:

      Jdiggins- don’t be fooled by this… IMO. “…if I were so inclined, I think.” is key here. He was hiding what would be his greatest legacy (children aside), I can’t imagine the adrenaline he had pumping through him when hiking to the location. I also try to remember that ff has been hiking his entire life so it’s probably a bit easier for him than an average person. Just my opinion.

  9. anna says:


    Forrest, thank you for caring about each and every human being searching for your treasure.

  10. Snyder says:

    Common sense is not a gift,
    It is a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who does not have it.
    I am not saying that I have never done anything stupid. But I have never made anyone suffer from my bad decisions.
    Accidents happen to everyone, and it is unfortunate. It is important to learn from your mistakes. But it is more important to learn from everyone else’s mistakes also.
    Everyone needs to stay strong and be positive.
    If I was inclined.
    Thank you Forrest and Jenny!!!!

  11. pdenver says:

    Thank you for the “Featured Question,” Jenny and Mr. Fenn. The information given is greatly appreciated. I now have a concern with the waders I use for fly fishing; they’re not felt. Fished Yellowstone River and go anywhere between mid-calf to about the knees.

  12. Jake Faulker says:

    Sage advice.

    • Martha says:

      hey, Jake that sage brush is tough stuff, getting entangle in that brush is a nightmare, I can only imagine the snake that take refuge in those bushes. you really need cowboys boots on in the wild west!
      poison ivy advice! When I was in Wyoming in April I took so many falls, because I was in such a hurry!!!! Soft falls, boy did I make a mistake, did I tell you I found a geocache, That was interesting, I fill I’m close, but I could be wrong! Martha
      Jake do you know when Mr. Fenn stopped flying?

  13. William says:

    I plan to live forever so this don’t apply to me 🙂

  14. Madesquare says:

    A few years ago I was walking up a trail in tall grass and wild flowers when a bull stood up about thirty feet in front of me. I’d had no idea he was there. He didn’t raise his tail but he was very interested in me- that guy wanted to know me better. I edged away but he was equally interested when I came back down later. I gave him a huge berth but we walked parallel to each other for what seemed like a very long time (it probably wasn’t that long) and then I lost sight of him behind a little rise. I was scared we were going to meet up again at the base of the hill but he must have given up on me. The point is that this was a big dangerous animal that wasn’t behaving the way I would have expected-

  15. randawg says:

    Good advice Mr Fenn. I especially like:
    “You don’t have to move big rocks, or scale a precipice to get to the treasure.”
    (What about small rocks?) 😉

    • JC1117 says:

      Hello, Randawg.

      Small rocks are easy to move…if you have a little water…because they float…like ducks. :/ Be careful though. You don’t want to be caught near any thick-skulled peasant types…if you’re a descendant of Hwicce People.

      (Insert Monty Python Grail scene here.)

      (Heck…you could even insert the latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie here…in its entirety.)

      Speaking of stones…and rocks…


      Or…pour me a drink…

      …and I’ll tie you some flies.


  16. Carolyn says:

    Thanks Forrest for the reminders. Can’t wait to go on my search this August!

  17. Ramona says:

    Thank you Forrest, Jenny, & Mrs SRM. Good question, good answer.

  18. Brad Hartliep says:

    Now he tells me ..


  19. locolobo says:

    Very timely indeed, and informative. Thank you for the question Mrs. SRM and Jenny for posting it. Most definitely thank you Forrest for the answer!
    “Since you are the only one who knows where it is hidden can you give me some advice that will help keep us safe?”

    “*If you know precisely where it is you can probably retrieve it in any weather”


    I will soon be 87 and I could go back and get it if I were so inclined, I think.

    “*If you know precisely where it is you can probably retrieve it in any weather”


  20. Michelle says:

    Anybody find any clues/hints in that story that they care to share?

    • anna says:

      Michelle: respectfully, with two people’s lives lost to the Rio Grand while searching for his treasure, Forrest and his family must be heartbroken.

      **Life is far more precious than gold.**

      Everyone should “get this clue” quit taking stupid chances with your life. Be safe, be smart, be prepared, don’t search alone.

      • anna says:

        Does anyone else find this a troubling dichotomy…as a pilot and soldier serving our country Forrest willingly laid down his life and reputation to protect the lives of others…and now others go to senseless deaths looking for gold as his reputation grows.

        It’s not what Forrest intended as he encouraged families to have fun outdoors with TTOTC. Certainly not what he wanted. I’m saddened for him and his family, but perplexed as it continues.

        • Buckeye Bob says:

          Yeah, people are taking extraordinary risks at things a 79 year old guy couldn’t do. That is perplexing.

  21. tighterfocus says:

    I think the TC may (technically) be in a desert, and FF is trying to mislead us. But his comments
    are just advice, and not statements (as if he said “the TC is not in a desert”.)

    • Michy says:

      He’s trying to save lives. Man missing in Rio now. Stay out of desert he’s saying, because he doesn’t want more people taken there.

    • pdenver says:

      Hello tighterfocus. I believe there is a scrapbook in regards to “misleading” searchers. Paraphrasing, it said he wouldn’t.

    • ROLL TIDE says:

      @Andrew Jef-aka-tighterfocus,


      Like it or not, that is a STATEMENT.

      And, like it or not, that means that YOUR solve is WRONG.

      But once again, you come along and infer that you probably know more about where the TC is hidden than does the man who actually hid it.

      Don’t look for any tricks or subterfuge, there aren’t any.

      The only one who is misleading you, is YOU.

      • tighterfocus says:

        It’s a (conditional) INSTRUCTION. My solve is not in a desert. My solve is in my mind (and on/in my computer). The poem’s clues guide the successful/correct
        solver through a large area, a small part of which is desert. Have you looked up the definition of “desert”? It relates to precipitation, not available local water (such as the creek that is very close to the TC). So a smart searcher will not die of dehydration in this area.

        I never claimed to know more about the location than does FF. But if you choose to misinterpret a perceived inference, it’s your right to do so . . . just like it’s your
        right to assume anything. SOME people know what assuming does. It’s even your
        right to go drown in the Rio Grande, although I genuinely hope that you don’t ever
        do this.

        I don’t believe that anyone has been successful in misleading me regarding this treasure hunt.

        Time to rolllllllllll another one, to tide you over until you can rolllllllllllllllllllllllll
        ANOTHER one!

        • ROLL TIDE says:

          You are losing it ANDREW JEF-aka-tighterfocus.

          “I think the TC may (technically) be in a desert, and FF is trying to mislead us.”

          I’m thinking maybe you have rollllllllllllllled one too many already.

          You are truly a special breed. Makes me wonder what type of people would give you the time of day, in the real world.

          I bet you are a very lonely person.

  22. Belle says:

    While walking in the woods, one should take note of landmarks and turned around once in a while to see what your path looks like the other way.

  23. Buckeye Bob says:

    Here’s a link to the U.S. Geological Survey site. If you go to:
    “Current streamflow conditions”
    in the second box down, type in your state, and you can get cirrent info on the amount of water in the rivers near your search.
    What’s nice is they have a convenient chart for each river/stream that shows the level of water flow for the past year. So you can compare July and August of last year to the current conditions.


  24. astree says:

    Good advice, ambition can override sense in the moment.

    “Know the Limits” caught my attention due to the KL and KILE.

    but it’s got a very relevant anagram as


  25. astree says:

    “Don’t go into the mountains alone” is interesting because

    “As I have gone alone in there”.

    There are several reasons this wouldn’t be a contraction, and maybe Forrest wants the searchers to play it really safe.

    • Alsetenash says:

      I think that at least his first time he ever when to the spot and the area he was with someone. Now that person he went with back then is no longer alive today. Maybe the possibility to 2 can keep a secret…This may be why he wrote, ” As I have gone alone in there”. Meaning the time when he hid the chest. He already had a Feild Level Hazard Assesement (FLHA) of the area, knows the area exactly, where to go exactly and as he has said it is in a safe area. Follow the poem and it will lead right to it. Searchers are searching everywhere other than where it is so far. Go with someone searching is the smart thing to do because we no have FLHA of the area’s we search and it is just safer if we just think for a moment , all the potential scenarious. I searched once so far and alone, I realized right away that I should not have done it alone even though it is considered a safe area. . I now will always search with someone going forward. A severe twist of an ankle or a trip and fall getting concussed could easily lead to peril being alone in the bush. Safe area or not, alone is alone.

  26. Zaphod73941 says:

    Ah, but how to resolve the conflict between this Featured Question and the Weekly Words from October 7th last year?

    “*If you have a searching partner, best to have them wait in the car. f”

    “Two searchers together is an absolute minimum, but three or even four is better. Stay within eyesight of each other.”

    Solution: the treasure chest’s location is within eyesight of the parking spot! 🙂

  27. Chesney says:

    Thank You Mr. Fenn and Ms. Kile…. really appreciate all that you do!

  28. WyMustIGo says:


    Happy Fathers Day! Here is a tune my dad used to like to sing.


    Enjoy your day!

  29. Belle says:

    Listen to what the man says, Sage advice!

  30. OH! says:

    And make sure you stake your sleeping bag to the ground at night in case your tent decides to launch into the wind. It hurts when you land!

    • Crow says:

      A number of times lately I thought the wind was going to relocate my RV onto the adjacent property. It’s been rough lately. If I were in a tent, I think I would be taken to the yellow brick road already or maybe I would look like an unusual or unique air balloon rising over the West. 🙂 Thanks for the visual.

    • OH! says:

      It’s especially difficult with the Mrs. when the tent flies.

  31. Crow says:

    I would add: If you are asked to leave the property you are on, do so immediately and that would mean that your solve cannot be correct no matter how compelling it might sound and feel. Thank you for the ‘rocks’ comment – but this posted on the 16th and might not have been seen by those already out and about in areas with no cell towers. Thank you for including experts in the forest areas. In any case, Jenny, I would suggest a repeat of this message at the beginning of each search season.

  32. Jdiggins says:

    Sure wish I had my feet in some nice cold water, if stay in it a while at these temps. It’s too hot! I keep telling Bill the sun feels hotter every year…
    I can’t wait for work and others things to ebb soon… 🙂

  33. Point Foot says:

    The more I ponder the more I think about the Fifth Element. Love. Thank you Forrest for the impossible puzzle and Jenny for the wonderful site.


    • Point Foot says:

      Praying for family and friends of Paris Wallace. I just saw the story in the news. Heartbreaking.

      The search is not worth risking one’s life. Forrest has said it is not in a dangerous place. Definitely don’t go searching the wilderness alone. Even if only to have someone with you as a sanity check. If something looks dangerous it probably is so it’s not there.

      If you believe Forrest hid the treasure then believe him when he says he put it somewhere an 80 year old could go get it.

      That in my mind means you won’t have to cross the Rio Grande except over a bridge.

      Personally I don’t go searching where I wouldn’t feel safe bringing my children as that was his entire purpose to get the kids off the couch.

  34. tighterfocus says:

    Many searchers think that there’s no strenuous hiking required (within reasonable search activity)
    to get to the TC. But FF, above, warns: “If you or your son have any physical limitations please don’t attempt the search.”

    This tends to confirm my solve, which indicates about a mile of hiking (toward the TC) on some fairly rugged terrain — although it’s not particularly dangerous. The appropriate hike is not what one
    would call a “Sunday stroll”.

    I also appreciate FF’s mention of bears. The TC is in bear country, folks. If you find any lost owls
    fluttering around aimlessly on the ground, please save them from becoming a possible meal for a
    hungry bear. Putting these owls onto a high tree limb could bring them closer to Jesus. Amen.

    All the above is my opinion. Yours may differ. Please stay safe if you go into the Rocky Mountains
    in search of the treasure.

  35. Iceman says:

    Sorry to hear about Paris. We all liked him.

  36. Jake says:

    Make sure you are well prepared no matter how long you plan on searching… accidents happen. I will be recovering the TC very soon, so hopefully nobody else will be hurt or lost in the meantime. It has been a fun time trying to decipher and understand the poem… but the time has come to end it. Good luck to all! 🙂

  37. Madesquare says:

    Quitting isn’t Forrest’s way, but I can
    understand how he might feel bound to
    ax the thing under this kind of pressure.
    Nobody wanted these deaths and I think
    anybody who knows him knows that
    he cares deeply about his searchers. Personally I think he should stay the course-

  38. Jdiggins says:

    We’re all responsible for ourselves in the Chase. We enlisted. We were not drafted, not forced into contract. Nothing in life is a guarantee, certainly not our longevity.
    None of the deaths are Forrest fault and it’s ludicrous to think so.
    Forrest, I hope you do not carry any blame, were all big kids here. We know the risk and we choose to take it. People died looking for Treasure all the time, just because you’re alive doesn’t mean it’s your fault.
    I hope you are well. 🙂

    • Andesite says:

      Hear Hear Jdiggins…I agree with you 100%. I’ve loved every moment of TTOTC as it brought me back to life from stage 3 cancer and gave me a fun puzzle to solve and reason to hike Montana’s Rockies that I’ve loved my entire life. Forrest has certainly put plenty of safety and risk related information out to the public. That said, it may be difficult for searchers to understand the ethical pressure he feels from media sources, exwives, and perhaps his own family members. Please consider the following hypothetical scenario related to ones ability to save just one life:

      The owner of a home throws a pool party with grilled hamburgers. One party goer decides to enjoy a burger while floating on a raft in the pool and leaves an uneaten portion of burger on the raft.

      Party over. Owner leaves for the weekend not knowing the burger is floating on the raft in the pool. Owner’s dog delivers 4 puppies in the back yard near the pool. Before knowing how to swim 3 of those puppies catch the delicious whif of burger waiting for them in the middle of the pool. 3 of 4 puppies drown while trying to reach the burger, regardless of their mama dog barking warnings.

      Owner returns to discover his dog had puppies but is heartbroken to see 3 have perished. Upon searching pool owner sees hamburger on floating tube which explains the heartbreaking situation.

      Does owner retrieve the hamburger to prevent the last puppy from drowning, or let nature run it’s course to see if last puppy heeds mama dogs warnings? Every one of us would remove the burger to preserve the puppy’s life.

      This hypothetical scenario may not be a perfect match, but is closer to the ethical pressures forrest must be processing through and discussing with his family. We all know how much forrest cares about human life, and searchers playing his game with safety and respect for our lives. He’s a great guy…I’m not contesting that. Simply asking the difficult question ff must be considering … “if you personally could save a life…would you do it and retract the treasure hunt? Or let it ride knowing people will ignore stern safety warnings?”

      Once again I would like to express my sorrow for families who have lost loved ones, and my gratitude for what Forrest’s treasure hunt has meant to me. I appreciate Forrest’s generosity and adventurous spirit. It’s a difficult situation for him and those who will manage his ttotc when he’s gone.

      • tighterfocus says:

        You’re right. It’s far from a perfect match.

        Your logic would suggest that all automobiles, aircraft, electrical appliances, tools, etc. should be banned — in the interest of saving lives, right?

      • Jdiggins says:

        That’s a lot of thought, and I appreciate and understand it. Good point. 🙂

        • Andesite says:

          Thanks jdiggins. Mainly I feel badly for Forrest, who through the chase gave me an incredible gift, and now has a heavy load to process. Hoping his family and close friends are a huge support. Glad to hear he’s considering how to make it safer but not give up.

          Tighter focus. Thanks for the input. I wasn’t trying to put forth perfect logic regarding safety. I was simply trying to consider what forrest must process regarding loss of lives related to searching for his treasure.

  39. Jake says:

    Thank you JC117- and BTW… that image rocks. I like it!

  40. ace 340 says:

    I noticed Paris was a motorcycle rider. These things that bring great joy make life worth living. To live a life of fulfillment in the moment, some others can only dream about and wish they had done from their rocking chair or hospital bed. Although most of us never met Paris, we know where he would stand. My thoughts and prayers go out. Those that knew him and are not searchers may find some solace in knowing this to be true for so many. g

  41. ace 340 says:

    We, as searchers can consider ourselves coached by one of the very best. The benefits of which can be immeasurable. What we decide to do with this knowledge is up to us. Thank you Forrest.


  42. Brad Hartliep says:

    Carlsbad is several hours south of Santa Fe, so has nothing to do with the Treasure Hunt –

    BUT TAKE WATER! And drink often. And aim for the SHADE every chance you get ..

    If your going out this summer, All Four States are a good 10 – 15 degrees above normal and we are going to hear a lot about HEAT STROKE this year ..



  43. ROLL TIDE says:

    What is your motive for continually coming here to promote a site that is based on calling Forrest Fenn a liar and a hoax ?

    I seriously can’t understand why Jenny allows you to do this.

    You poor widdle fing, you taught you had it all figward out but you got there and it wasn’t there, so that pwooves that F is a liar.

    You were wrong.
    Get over it jl.

  44. me says:

    I think he should give half the chest’s and contents value to the closest searcher (to his knowledge) and the other half to the second closest who can armchair search from home. He still knows the correct location. The closest searcher can give answers to past hints based on their best ability. And he should sneak to the chest first. He doesn’t need a sandwich since it’s probably
    A quick trip.

  45. Jake says:

    I’m trying to search with my brother and some friends, but the friends backed out. Is there anyone honest and able to search this weekend in wy? Let me know if you can, I will end this before anyone else gets hurt, that’ll prove ff is not a liar. Let me know.

    • MJ says:

      Jake dear,
      I know I’m late posting this, you didn’t find it did you?
      It’s July 18th, I think and if you left to search weeks ago, you haven’t ended it!
      I wish you would have, I asked you if you wanted to partner up, and I keep the memior, but you didn’t respond to my request!
      I thought you would have been a faithful, man!
      Sincerely yours, Martha

  46. SL says:

    Seeing an increase of negative back and forth on the various forums. I don’t think it’s is worth dimming the light on someones dream.

    Live and let live ~

  47. Jeremy P. says:

    Quick Public Service Announcement for anyone considering doing something risky because you think the Chase is going to end and this is the only opportunity you have.

    Whatever you’re thinking of doing, it’s not worth it. Here is my personal email address: jeremysdropbox@gmail.com Please give me the opportunity to talk you out of it. I don’t care where you’re searching. I won’t even ask. I’m only concerned about your personal safety and would like to work with you on considering alternatives.

    Anyone is welcome. Let’s chat.

    • Jeremy P. says:

      Find Mental Health Services, including Suicide Prevention:


      National Problem Gambling Hotline:


    • OH! says:

      This is a fantastic idea Jeremy. I really don’t think think f will end the chase, I believe the chase will end itself within a couple of months. With all that has happened in the past 6 months it’s easy to tell someone is on the right track and keeps going back to the same area to search.
      It is the newbies that we need to worry about and hopefully a state will be eliminated which will aid in a smaller search area away from large raging rivers.


      • Point Foot says:

        I like to think he won’t end it. That’s an interesting thought about excluding a state. Maybe that’s the best approach. If that happens I hope that doesn’t become a pattern as other state police might ask the same thing to please exclude their states too. Maybe it’s wiser to just exclude some big unsafe areas… within a couple months huh… we will see. It has been seven years so until someone has it I’m not guessing an end time.

        Blessings to all. Thank you Forrest for the adventure of a lifetime and Jenny for the amazing place for all of us to share.

      • Jeremy P. says:

        I don’t think he will, or should, either. I think as a search community, though, we can do a better job of reaching out to others who haven’t thought things through. I encourage everyone to do this, if they can.

    • Strawshadow says:

      You have single handledly put in writing one of the most important, unselfish, and caring posts I have read since beginning the chase. This speaks volumns as to your character, which has never been in doubt. To the outsider who thinks its all about the gold, I would point out that life is all about discovery, and a beautiful day is when a person discovers the difference. A hero in action and an asset to the Fenn community, thanks Jeremy, how does it feel to save a life.

  48. BradHartliep says:

    Well that’s twice in two weekends Land Rangers have stopped me and wanted to know what I was doing. Looks like the powers in charge are getting nervous. Time to stop for a semester and wait for further instructions ..

  49. BradHartliep says:

    Well, the first weekend, a guy was wondering around in a daze in just his shorts and an officer came over to me and asked did I know him was I with him where did I see him did I talk to him, all the while gazing inside my car, and then walked off a distance and sat watching me for about 5 minutes. I left. Today, They stated, “there’s been a lot of vandalism”, though everything looked exactly as it has in the past, implied very heavily I was not welcome to visit and then stood there and watched me threateningly as the head guy pulled out a notebook and pencil. I left.


  50. BradHartliep says:


    Want to produce, direct and edit an action packed feature length Narrative about one man’s two and half year odessey in search of Forrest Fenn’s Golden Treasure? Must be able to direct and edit together a Narrative style feature length film and develop a distribution agreement. Must also be willling to cast Brad Hartliep as the Major Lead Protagonist.

    Brad Hartliep

  51. Madesquare says:

    Things seem to be calming down already- now if we can just avoid another bad outcome for a few months it should see us clear of the greater part of the search season-

  52. JRS says:

    Reading you guys post is interesting, I live in AL. and can’t venture out of state due to my job( on call 7 days a week) , I’ve been working on this for about 5 days now and have by way of Internet been able to look at my interpretation of the poem. I would love to be able to see this spactacular place once someone finds it. The year before last we drove from here to San Diego and I can say this, if the winds and the heat are as intense now as they where then, I feel for the foolish person that thinks it to be in the desert. That is no place for anyone to be. The” Blaze ” I know of two kinds . One is a marker on a trail the other is a mark made on a cactus. This is only a suggestion. I read here that someone thinks that Brown references to trout , not so sure about that one. Maybe Brown is to do with an art color definition. Just another suggestion. I think heavy loads is the burden taken on in crossing or entering the water, now waters high to me sounds like it might be where water can be measured. I don’t want to carry on with possibles so I pray that you get some insight into this poem and understand that words don’t mean what most understand them to be. Love to all in search and may God be with you and protect. Be safe and good happy hunting.

    • tighterfocus says:

      I’m the “foolish person” that thinks the TC is in a desert. One of the reasons for this is that I read about Forrest Fenn’s intention to hide the TC in a desert.

      Please be aware that the definition of “desert” is pretty broad. There are deserts that are not very arid. Many even have a lot of groundwater (river/stream/lake, etc.), even though the amount of precipitation may be small. There is a lot of groundwater in my search area. Please don’t lose any sleep about dehydration on my part.

      Here’s some information for you . . . that I hope you will find useful: If you continue to
      research this treasure hunt, you should read that Forrest Fenn chose a location such that
      the treasure chest might still be there in a thousand years. This means that any visual items
      one would see — to help find the TC — need to be this durable. A mark on a cactus surely
      does not qualify.

      5 days is not very long, compared to the many months (or years) that some searchers have
      been working on a correct solve of the poem. Please don’t give up too easily. But please,
      also consider that after 7 years of this hunt, it may be ending pretty soon due to someone
      finding the TC. That’s my plan. I believe the announcement will be made before the end
      of summer 2017.

  53. Brad Hartliep says:

    New Statement by Fenn over at Dals”s:

    “Safety First

    .. The Treasure Chest is not under water, nor is it near the Rio Grande River. It is not necessary to move large rocks or climb up or down a steep precipice, and it is not under a man-made object.” ..

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