Featured Question with Forrest Fenn and The Thrill of the Chase Treasure Hunt: Spanish to English Dictionary?

Hello Mr. Fenn,

For those of us that do not speak a lick of Spanish, would a Spanish to English dictionary be helpful in our search for your treasure chest?

Thanks,
John

 

You should not need to look any words up John. Good luck. f

 

 

 

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95 Responses

  1. Jeremy P. says:

    Hrmpf. There goes my solution! 🙂

  2. pdenver says:

    Phew! Good to know. I thought I would need to look up every town in New Mexico to understand what it meant. Using a dictionary to understand what the English words mean is another matter. 🙂

  3. JDA says:

    Well: The Ethnologue catalogue of world languages, which is one of the best linguistic resources, currently lists 6909 living languages. About 6% of them have more than a million speakers each, and collectively account for 94% of the world population. So, only 6907 (not counting English and Spanish) to worry about – PHEW!!! 🙂 JDA

  4. Jake Faulker says:

    Gracias amigo.
    I will look words down, quickly.

  5. Hear me all says:

    Hi JDA – Do you consider that f answered this question because the meanings of words do not matter in the correct solution? That’s the vibe I get but you might see it differently.

    • JDA says:

      Meanings of words certainly matter as far as I am concerned.

      Do we need to know different languages to solve the riddle – well, now that is a different question that I think Forrest needs to answer, not me – JDA

      • Hear me all says:

        Hi JDA – Fair enough. Don’t say f hasn’t tried to spell it out for you in multiple ways. If you try a different approach you will find that things flow more easily and keep you from falling down those pesky rabbit holes in WY.

        • JDA says:

          HMA – If he has spelled it out for me, he has spelled it out for you – so where is it? JDA

          • Hear me all says:

            It’s in a very special spot and the poem leads to that spot. I know the spot but can’t tell you because “two can keep a secret if one of them is dead.” That’s just one of many hints for the special spot.

          • JDA says:

            What keeps you from going to that “special spot”? JDA

            • Hear me all says:

              Hi JDA – Time and money but don’t fret for me. The gold I will surely see.

            • Jake says:

              Hear me all- I really don’t think JDA is searching in vain at all. If you’ve been listening closely to what Forrest has been putting out there, it only leads to one place. But you have to solve the meaning of the poem to see it all come together. That’s the missing piece. I will go soon. JDA- best of luck in your search. I’d still like to touch base sometime, I feel like there is a lot we could teach each other from BOTG experiences. God Bless all who seek the thrill. 🙂

              • JDA says:

                Are “Jake” and Jake Faulker one and the same or different. If different – “Jake” email me at SculptorJDA at aol dot com – JDA

                • Jake says:

                  We are different. I can’t email from work but i’ll try and reach out tonight if possible. I am heading back out this month and welcome some honest and humble company. It’s just me and my coworker going this time, the more minds the better I always say.

  6. locolobo says:

    Dear Mr. Fenn,

    The definitions of words seem to interest you. What dictionary, and year of dictionary, do you use for looking up words? ~ wordsmith

    “Interesting that you would ask that Mr./Mz Wordsmith.

    I don’t use dictionaries anymore. I just type the word in Google for a faster response…..”
    ………………………………………………………………

    Yup John, you should not need to ‘look any words up’, in a dictionary…..just do like Forrest and type it into Google!!

    🙂

  7. 42 says:

    1. Someone’s gotta ask… “Do not” or “should not”? Although, I should think Forrest means you do not need Spanish translations. Period.

    2. A lick = small stream (one definition)

    3. ? A Guitar ‘lick’ of Spanish music

    4. Just For Fun: there’s a great connection between “Upjohn” company and Norman Rockwell paintings. The art of N.R.has been discussed in connection to TTOTC.

    http://www.upjohn.net/art/rockwell/rockwell.htm

  8. ROLL TIDE says:

    Clever.
    Who else is gonna get it ?

  9. ROLL TIDE says:

    Well, since I did not ‘put my post below a previous comment’, I must have been addressing the exchange between John and Forrest.

    • JDA says:

      Guess that that would work – I had to read it over three times, but Spanish to English dictionary probably would not help, since the poem is probably being read by “John” (and not Jose) in English – CUTE!!! Nice pick-up RT JDA

  10. HeadedDown says:

    Thank you Mr. Fenn and Jenny.

  11. Zaphod73491 says:

    Seems pretty straightforward to me. No Spanish knowledge (knowlege?) necessary. Translating from Spanish to English or vice versa won’t help you one iota in figuring out where the treasure is located. But if searchers want to continue beating that poor dead horse, no statement from Forrest is gonna stop ’em.

  12. 23kachinas says:

    If you find the treasure I suppose a smile does not need translation.

  13. C.M.R. says:

    Thanks Forrest, I followed the poem and while looking for the blaze I found a sign that said “Trésor”. Now my whole confident solve is shot. Does that mean the 20′ blue X at the monument in the middle of nowhere on google earth means nothing as well?

  14. WyMustIGo says:

    So much for the people forcing the poem words to have Spanish meanings. The poem and the book are in English, no reason to expect Spanish anywhere.

    • Seannm says:

      Hey there Wy,

      Doesn’t this seem to echo our discussion about what is required and what may be helpful?

      Seannm

      • WyMustIGo says:

        People are going to twist that poem to force it to be anything that fits their solve. I stick with the facts, and the poem and book are in English.

        • seannm says:

          Wy,

          Agreed. Subjective vs Objective

          Seannm

          • WyMustIGo says:

            I have to say that being off the forums has given me some progress that I was not getting before. The downside is I hit the 3rd strike out, upside is I have a good partner now finally. These days I am trying to use only the poem, my only research item is TTOTC for hints.

            I think I almost have TTOTC in memory now, and I have to say that it seems very clear that Forrest had a troubled childhood. I am of the opinion that either Forrest ran away, or his dad put him into a boys summer camp to straighten him out. Forrest had to have a negative impact on his dad considering his dad was the principal.

            Who knows, maybe Skippy never left him in Wyoming, maybe FF jumped out of the family car during an argument and then ran away for six days (instead of spending them with Donnie looking for Lewis and Clark). Maybe, like Eric Sloane who ran away too, he spent some time with the indians before his parents took him back, and that was when he found his special place.

    • Sandy says:

      Father on the banco

      • pdenver says:

        You’re quite a smart person, Sandy.

      • WyMustIGo says:

        Why not use the Italian meaning of Banco then? Doesn’t fit your solve, eh? LOL

        • Jeremy P. says:

          I don’t recall Italian being mentioned in the book. However, there’s three chapters of the book devoted to things Forrest was doing in Spanish class, so it’s not unreasonable at all for people to think Spanish may be involved.

          • Jeremy P. says:

            At least prior to this Q & A 🙂

          • WyMustIGo says:

            You mean how much Forrest hated Spanish, right?

            • Jeremy P. says:

              “Now, I secretly loved that old lady Ford…”

              It’s a treasure hunt.

              • wonder if we look for a broken down ford in the woods

              • WyMustIGo says:

                Keep looking in New Mexico, the smart folks are not.

                • JC1117 says:

                  Hola, WyMustIGo.

                  I resemble that remark. 🙂

                  Define “looking”…

                  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/looking

                  @2:11…

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHKA4hFo5M

                  Thanks for the Words, Forrest and Jenny.

                • JC1117 says:

                  …and John.

                  Thank you, John.

                  Say…you’re not THE John…are you…perchance? 🙂

                • Jeremy P. says:

                  @WyMustIGo: I personally find it funny whenever people feel the need to say how much smarter they are than others in the treasure hunt, when the whole thing about the treasure hunt is that the location is only known to one guy, Fenn, and it’s based on whatever he thinks is reasonable.

                  For all anyone else knows, Fenn’s solution is the most absurd and ridiculous thing they’ve ever heard, and the smartest people on the planet would think it’s the dumbest thing they’ve ever heard. In fact, the most predictable feature of the treasure hunt is that when it is found, the person who finds it will think it’s a great place for it, while most of the other searchers will be confused by it’s location and consider it a poor choice. That’s almost a given.

                  So congrats for being a smart person. You’re right up there with the hundreds of others who say the exact same thing. Whenever it’s found, there will be hundreds or thousands of smart people thinking: “It was there? But that’s stupid!”

                  There’s some really stupid solutions to Forrest’s poem out there, and the funny thing is that any one of them could have been exactly what Forrest Fenn was thinking.

  15. Copper says:

    Maybe you don’t look up for the word, you look down for it. Perhaps a hint towards a final marking on the ground? A scripture on a rock? Just thinking about that final locations gives me the conniptions.

  16. Seannm says:

    All,

    I should not need to tell my teenage daughter to clean her room, but…..

    Seannm

  17. J Smith says:

    You should not need to look up any words…if you don’t know just ask somebody.

  18. GEYDELKON says:

    COME ON IN THE WATER IS FINE.
    An Indian Scout and A Saint

    https://youtu.be/C4PuRpCeC5E

  19. Lifesablaze says:

    One thing my boys always ask me to make when I’m able to cook for them – Mom’s juicy Burger. With Hatch green chilis of course! It’s my special recipe I won’t even share with their girlfriends. It wood bee nice though, to have a cookout soon. Don’t mind me I’m just missing my boys. Maybe I will see them again one day. Meantimes, the charge is building again. Like a lightning bolt.

  20. WyMustIGo says:

    So hear me all and listen good, I am Italian, should I look up the Italian versions of words such as Banco?

  21. Lou Lee Belle says:

    Forrest did not want us to over-think it! It’s so simple…….I walked right past it!

  22. Awingit says:

    Well I’m certainly glad to hear I don’t need Spanish! Now if I could just keep the wife happy so she’d bless that extra trip…

    • Awingit says:

      Anyone ever feel like a yo-yo? I’m up then I’m down then up then down lol. Anyone else make a promise to go only one trip a year? I did unless my wife blesses another. That keeps the interventions at bay, but it sure takes some of the fun away. I thought I’d get to go just before the equinox but now it’s hard to say. Every day I simply wait and pray for one more day of play. 🙂

  23. Bailey says:

    Thanks for the Q & A Mr. Fenn, Jenny, and John. I’ve had to look up a lot of words over the years. Glad that is something that is not necessary, but I guess it depends on what the definition of “is” is.
    Looking forward to a fun Fall trip.

  24. Five-leaf blaze says:

    Glad you had some words for us again, Mr. Fenn! Very interesting this one, being that I was looking at a word turned Spanish that plugs into a certain solution. But I went there already, to that place of giant felled logs in a forest. I looked carefully but nothing was there. Blaz

  25. DUMBFOUNDED says:

    WHY IS THE GRAPHIC OF A ENGLISH-FRENCH DICTIONARIO? EXTRANO, NO?

  26. Clee says:

    Then I suppose it’s a good thing I have never found useful information in a Spanish to English dictionary.

  27. BW says:

    Not only has Mr. Fenn’s poem led us on a quest for treasure, but also a journey for knowledge. Maybe we are not suppose to focus on word definitions with this statement, since we don’t have to look up words. Has anybody read about the Upjohns’? One was an architect of churches, and another was a doctor that manufactured the first pill. Not sure how this would help in solving the poem, but good information if anyone is auditioning for Jeopardy or Who wants to be a Millionaire!

  28. so,mr. forrest are you saying,I don’t have to look up ,lets say the word brown for instance,to see what is another word for brown,just literally take all the words in the poem itself and figure out the clues instead of changing it from brown to ground,moose,etc.please explain if you could.

  29. passenger says:

    -“You should not need to look any words up John. Good luck. f”

    Happy to see things pick up. While I can appreciate the sentiment, I don’t completely agree with Forrest.. but I think he’s alright with that.

    -passenger

  30. Sparrow says:

    Thank you Forrest and Jenny.

  31. Alsetenash says:

    I think Forrest has his word meanings themed based on his life and Times experiences. I have certain numbers that mean things to me based on my life. I can see numbers in the poem and things FF says that trigger my notice but I don’t see their relevance as helpful to solve . I see lots of obvious numbers like 9, 10 and 17 . Shakespeare’s ” what is in a name?” This poem is sure not easy . Numbers are easier to work with than words and names, Sean, Shawn , Shone or Smyth, Smythe ,Smith! Numbers are more specific. Just one letter in a word can have significant effects on the meaning of a word and names.

    • Aaron says:

      I agree, a word can have numerous definitions and then you change it by one letter and numerous more. If there are words in the poem that can and should be changed by a letter or two the complexity of the poem is multiplied.

  32. William says:

    This pretty much sums up that Forrest said the poem is straight forward. So my guess the each word is at its face value

  33. Strawshadow says:

    Thanks Jenny, John and Forrest,
    This is very good news for those of us who can’t spell a leck and had a tendency to jump out the Spanish class window.

  34. ace 340 says:

    Nice to hear from Forrest again. How about Jonsey 1. You OK out there? I always look for your opinions when Forrest posts. g

  35. HeadedDown says:

    Anyone else think this John had a map of New Mexico and was like maybe i should ask before i translate all these words… Maybe save some time. New Mexico yeah!

  36. Lou Lee Belle says:

    So no secret code.

  37. tighterfocus says:

    I think more searchers should look up English words! Doing it helped me in my solve, and my solve
    keeps improving. It has led me on 4 search hikes, each one up the SAME creek. Each time, I learn
    more about the terrain in that area, and further fine-tune my solve. The target IS now in the
    crosshairs.

  38. Buckeye Bob says:

    A guy doesn’t need a treasure hunt to go a step too far.

  39. Crimsonblaze says:

    It’s all Spanglish, with some French for perfection.

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