NASA plans to have a man on Mars in 20-30 years. Given your Indiana Jones personality for adventure and flight, as a young man, would you have wanted to be selected as an astronaut for that program? ~BW
No BW, that NASA thing was not meant for me. It required too much study, and I’m just smart enough to know I’m not smart enough for that program. And I didn’t want to get in the centrifuge. I knew Buzz Aldrin and Dave Scott, both of whom walked on the moon. We were both in the same fighter wing in Germany in 1958 or so.
If one of them called and said, “Hurry Fenn come down here and jump in this rocket with me,” I’d been there in a minute. At 85, I’m still sitting by the phone. That line must be out of order. f
Thanks BW for such a great question; and I love the answer, Forrest. It made me laugh.
It would be the thing to go into space. Enjoy the question and answer.
Why are you laughing Jenny, I’m serious?
I think that is why I’m laughing….because I can totally see you as the first secret Stowaway on a Moon or Mars mission….. Everyone would be wondering, ‘where’s Forrest?’……..
That is funny Jenny…:)
Well…this is cool. I wasn’t expecting to hear from Forrest until maybe Friday. Speaking of stowaways…it would be sooo cool to actually be on the Apollo 11 flight that landed on the moon. You know…like a fly on the wall. 🙂
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486321/
Perhaps that will be the entertainment of the afterlife…to go to any moment in time and space and experience it in “real” time.
“Where are you going, honey?”
“I’m going fishing with some friends for a few weeks…in Alaska…in 1840. I’ll be back in a just a second. Literally.”
“Okay. Have fun!” 🙂
That would never get old.
Reminds me of that dove sitting on the moon. The dove is a symbol of peace. When it sits on the moon I think of Apollo 11 lunar landing:
[I]Here men from the planet Earth first set foot upon the Moon, July 1969 A.D. We came in peace for all mankind.[/I]
It was inscribed on a plaque on the ladder of the Eagle lander, displaying 2 circular pictures or earth representing two hemispheres.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11#/media/File:Apollo_11_plaque_closeup_on_Moon.jpg
Mr. Fenn, Thank you for answering my question.
Someday many, many years from now a 9 year old, inquisitive little boy, will be kicking the dust on Mars and have the same joy you had when you found your arrowhead. I wonder what he will find?
I know…now, I need to go quickly down and jump in, that’s why I have my waders…patience please- I must wait for my vacation so I can retreat to that warm place one last time…
Hurry up Buzz Aldrin and Dave Scott, give Forrest a call!
I remember watching the movie Apollo 13 when the astronauts needed to calculate a re entry burn. They all pulled out their slide rules and started doing calculus, I realized that I had made the right decision then.
On a side note, I once worked with a guy that was a NASA engineer at the start of the moon missions. He once showed me a book with all the calculations that NASA came up with to get a man to the moon. It was several hundred pages.
“I’m just smart enough to know I’m not smart enough for…”
I have that thought often… 🙂
Thanks Jenny and forrest. What a nice surprise. Thanks to you too bw. 🙂
This was a nice surprise to my Tuesday. Really fun. Thanks Jenny and Forrest.
That line must be out of order? Apparently someone did not follow the directions precisely. Good to hear from you Forrest, you keep us guessing as to when, where and what you will show next! Thanks again forrest, and Jenny, for everything!!
The line is not out of order, just not placed were we think it should be. Where have I heard that before… lol.
I’m a bit twisted on; … “We were both in the same fighter wing in Germany in 1958 or so.”
He knows both men, Was this a simple word mistake such as ‘ we were all in…’ or ‘they were both in…’
There was no distinction between which men were in the same fighter wing. Then goes back to “If one of them called…”
Maybe the year[s] will explain. Now my curiosity is heightened.
It was his bad (and that’s a German word).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2peP8jWYM
06:33. “I’ve made some deliberate errors, just to see if anybody would find them, and they don’t”
… well, sometimes they do…
I love the video where Buzz Aldrin punches the conspiracy theory nut who has been harassing him for years, claiming the moon landing was faked. I think Mr. Aldrin was in his 70’s when he decked the guy. FYI, please don’t harass Mr. Fenn and tell him that his treasure is not hidden in the Rockies. He may do the same.
Peace will be achieved on Earth when a Warp Drive is developed and we can travel faster than the speed of light to other Habitable Worlds and/or into the unknown. Christopher Columbus not only discovered America, he discovered discovery (David Wootton: The invention of Science)…Glad I am alive during this century, future is bright for humanity.
That line must be out of order? After thinking about that for awhile all I can say is I can’t disagree. Thanks Jenny, Forrest and BW
I always find that the phone will ring when I’m trying to do something else.
I always find that the phone will ring when I am sitting on the toilet. I never answer the phone during T time….
I missed many moon flights that way… cause T time is MY time. –TW
LOL Timberwolf,
I can relate to ” T time is MY time ” My wife always yelling at me… ” T time is not for reading and thinking, it for… and …” Well, you get the gist of .. it.
I don’t understand her complainting… I mean, there’s a 4 volume set of ‘Uncle john’s Bathroom reader’ Apparently it’s only for “company”
I am in total agreement about the cherished “thinking time”, Timberwolf and Seeker. Many times I spend so much time in the Reading Room that my legs fall asleep and turn into pins and needles when I stand up again.
Regarding the “4 volume set of ‘Uncle john’s Bathroom reader’ Apparently it’s only for “company””. Women are really uptight like that. We have a similar set of books, too. My wife is getting tired of me explaining to our guests all the various sources of the “smudges of ochre” on the pages. :/
(Sorry about that. That’s not true…but I did work for several years as a Nurse’s Assistant in a care facility and got quite accustomed to “smudges”.)
Fun question and answer. It is interesting to learn more about the man behind the treasure.
Great question and answer. Thanks Forrest and Jenny. Personally, I would like to see the US space program get some traction again.
Also, respects to Edgar Mitchell, who just passed away. He had some interesting views.
astree
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Forrest 5 minutes in a centrifuge you would 20 years younger and your mirror might smile back 😉
Thank you for posting BW’s question, Jenny. Thank you for the answer, Mr. Fenn. One of the things I’ve noticed is what “down” could mean. 🙂
‘…out of order.’ Something out of proper sequence.
That’s a fun question and response.
If you could please ask Mr. Fenn if there are “hints” in the TTOTC that will help figure the HOB clue specifically. Pretty please
The universe; another frontier waiting to be called….. a home.
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Still by the phone Forrest? Hmmmmm….
Line out of order? Hmmmmm….
Friend
“Fly Me to the Moon”, originally titled “In Other Words”, is a popular song written in 1954 by Bart Howard. Frank Sinatra’s 1964 version was closely associated with the Apollo missions to the Moon.
I’m partial to Diana Krall’s version of Fly Me To the Moon because it’s highly instumental https://youtu.be/srMkjFwsmeM?t=31s
Ole’ Blue Eyes is classic.
23kachinas…And then there is Frank Sinatra also singing “All Alone” with the wording…
“All alone by the telephone
Waiting for a ring, a ting-a-ling”
Maybe Forrest takes after his mother, as in TTOTC page 128…”She didn’t answer, but just kept nodding and looking out the window. I think she was watching for the postman or something.”
Nice Ellen, I’ll check tout that “All Alone” song and pg. 128.
I had to stop for a moment and consider the ‘that NASA thing was not meant for me’ vs the minute-ready to jump into the rocket. They probably got the wrong number for the line, so if they really want to contact you I say, “Nasa just needs to visit yonder site > Ask Yahoo !”
It has answers for everything.
JC117, your “back in a second” (never gets old ) reminds me of the poor man who went off to pray. He was talking to God, and asked, “God, what is Eternity like for You ?”
“It is as a second”.
The man thought for a while, then said “God, how do you see a million dollars?”
“As a cent”
The man smiled and said “God, can I have a penny?”
God smiled and replid, “Wait a second”
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Last night, our family was out in the car, and the new moon was rising in front of us, on the horizon. It had the tiniest of a sliver crescent on it. One of our daughters asked, “Why does it look so big when it’s close to Earth”? Good question, there are several explanations that have been offered. Maybe I’ll go Ask Yahoo.
astree
The moon looks so big when rising or setting because it has to go through more atmosphere. Learned that from Disney’s The Kid with Bruce Willis…
That’s one of the common explanations, but it’s probably not correct. It seems like it’s more of a psychological phenomena (the way our minds interpret visual information with and without reference – horizon – data).
But, I really did like Mercury Rising. 🙂
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oh yes you are correct. When you see the moon referenced to something like the horizon it seems larger. Sorry.
Hello Astree and Clues. The moon illusion is crazy, indeed. I’ve seen it many times…and I always thought it was some kind of atmospheric lensing effect. I swear the moon looks twice as big as it normally does when it’s full and near the horizon. It’s extra trippy when the moon is colored…like a harvest moon.
It turns out it’s actually the Ponzo Effect. There’s a great example on the link below. The picture looks like the London Underground maybe.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/13/why-does-the-moon-look-so-huge-on-the-horizon/#.VrvbgFgrKUk
I’ll have to watch Mercury Rising, Astree. It looks really good, and I’ve never seen it. I’m going to try to watch it tonight.
I really liked the movie, JC1117, but when I looked it up on wikipedia, it said it got not-so-good reviews. I’d be interested what you think, if you have a chance to see it.
… while I was at wikipeida
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymorphism_(biology)#References
( and stay away from your namesake 117, that could be dangerous )
🙂
Thank you very much for the polymorphism link, Astree. That is very kind of you.
One thing really jumped up, though, and got my attention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi-U2WxwlAE
Nothing is too small to know. 🙂
“However, some sparrows are a little lazy”. The excitement in her voice when she narrated kept me on the edge of my seat. I recall our discussion of the “1117” several years ago. Were you aware that the video was 1:07 and posted on 7/17 ?
Your “Nothing is too small to know” hit a resonance with me (and, then again, how small is nothing, and can you know it?). It reminds me of what was once said to me, in a most unusual voice “Look ever more closely”.
“… or too big to attempt”
You’ve probably seen these type of illustrations, but after the first few steps, I still start getting vertigo
http://scaleofuniverse.com/
(from below) Glad you liked the movie- good quote, too.
The Wren Sings in the Morning
Good show.
“Somebody just walked on water.”
Thanks, JC1117 and Clues. I had actually thought that it had at least something to do with traveling through more atmosphere when it’s near the horizon, too, before I looked it up. Ha, JC, I had heard of a Ponzi Scheme before, but not the Ponzo Effect – interesting name.
Here’s something that bends my mind a bit – Why do the moon and sun appear to be the same size ? ( I know about diameters and distances, but the question is ) … Why here, the only place we know of in the solar system, where someone can see that effect? Crazy stuff. I don’t think any of the other planets I looked at have moons that give that effect … but I need to recheck.
Have a good night,
astree
‘…and I’m just smart enough to know I’m not smart enough…’
A positive and a negative comment. Positive + Negative = Attract
Attraction
Something to do with an attraction (place) ?
My phone ain’t ringing so I guess that’s them ain’t calling.
Two “ain’ts” makes a positive, Mr. Fenn. Someone knows her Math. Ha! 🙂
Negative sign flows from south to north, +……
Friend
Mr. Fenn,
Patience, that phone may ring yet. According to his book “Mission to Mars”, Mr. Aldrin is developing a rocket for travel to and from Mars.
My phone ain’t ringing so I guess that’s them ain”t calling. After thinking about this for awhile all I can say is I can agree, that line must be out of order.
Forrest,
Do you realize if you take Neil Armstrongs first name and the first letter of his last name and put them backwards it spells ALIEN !!!👽👽👽👽👽….. Strange….. Isn’t it?
I tried calling John Glenn a couple of times. He never answered.
I sent him a letter once (with a SASE). No response.
Neil Armstrong responded though. Now I have a nice autographed 8×10 color photo.
I know what you did there Forrest. Problem is, I’m not sure I’m smart enough to know whether or not I can get that line working again. 🙁
Hmmm. Now you have me curious, Iron Will. I’ll have to think about what you’re trying to say.
I was trying to say something to Forrest, without saying too much to everyone else. We’ll just have to see if he understood.
Hello, Iron Will. Maybe Forrest is talking about a fishing line…and he’s trying to see if that largemouth bass will bite again. Maybe Forrest needs to play with the bait a little bit.
Maybe reel in slowly…and get jiggy with it.
Here you go, JC1117!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFmdSLs1EUw
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Sounds like you have a crew full of rookies!
“Hurry Fenn come down here and jump in this rocket with me,”
That line must be out of order. f (noting above quote to be an anagram)
Check further in WY, hidden on Mammoth juniper trees
http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/ancient-trees-discovered-in-yellowstone/article_ef271f36-3eb0-5ea6-a3ae-1916e2696f01.html
If one of them called and said, “Check further in WY, hidden on Mammoth juniper trees” I’d been there in a minute.
Now you can see why he commented on the laughing and him being serious o.o
WHOOPS! I forgot a word lol it’s supposed to unscramble to ….
Check further now in WY, hidden on Mammoth juniper trees
Mr Fenn, I think you should have been part of the “Mercury 7” or rather “Mercury 8”. What do you think?
Thank you Mr. Fenn and Ms. Kile, this helps me tremendously… hope I spelled theat correctly! 🙂
That… lol…. almost spelled Theatre! 🙂
I would like to call and say, ‘come here with me’ but I do not have a number to call – maybe that is why the phone appears to be out of order. I sure would like a hand, leg, foot, arm, ingenious idea, sneaky character, whatever it would take–I’m getting whipped!
No phone for me either Crow, turned it off months ago. What was interesting though was a few days ago I was driving and my pad picked up a wifi with the name “FBI surveillance”. Creative name for a wifi if you don’t want people plugging in.
Sounds like you are as busy as a one legged, one armed ingenious sneaky character at a a$$ kickin contest.
That moon, sir.
Thanks for the heads-up, Fallingrock.
Looks to be a stunner…
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/fridays-total-lunar-eclipse-will-be-longest-blood-moon-visible-this-century-until-2123/70005578
Thanks guys, I just came in from outside myself! It is a beautiful moon and planets tonight! Thanks for the info.
Off topic anyone hear the recent news.. They have found water on Mars? Makes me think of just how truly small we may be in the universe! I wonder what Mr. Fenn thinks?
August 11, 2018
3:48AM-3:58AM
Me In the Middle
Overhead Underfoot
Could it be them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhMeB4NS5To
For those who are stargazers, the Perseid meteor shower peaks this weekend.
In General, yes, the first time he bailed he aimed high 500′ bluff with tall trees and landed short then skidded three-4x.