Since the release of The Thrill of the Chase in the fall of 2010, Forrest Fenn has offered some advice on how to find his hidden treasure or solve his poem. The following video gathers some of his most notable remarks together on this matter. Many of them are from Questions with Forrest here on this site.
It is similar to Forrest Fenn Treasure Facts, in that it shares statements made only by Forrest and not others. It is what Forrest Fenn says about how to find his treasure chest- not how others think you should.
For ourselves, we like reading/listening to his advice again—every now and then- to help keep us on track in case we stray. We hope it helps you do the same! Please enjoy the Top Twenty Quotes about how to find his treasure chest.
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Top Twenty Quotes of Forrest Fenn on How to Find his Treasure Chest
- Dear Forrest, What’s more important in solving the search, a greater knowledge (“knowlege”) of Toponymy or Geography? ~Chris
I don’t know how Toponymy can help you at all Chris (I had to look that word up). But if you knew the geographic location of each clue it would be a map to the treasure. f (Questions w Forrest 2017)
- Dear Mr. Fenn, You say the clues in the poem are to be followed in consecutive order. You have also said the book holds sublte hints. Are these ‘subtle hints’ in consecutive order (in relation to how they help with clues in the poem) too? ~ Thank you, joseph
That’s right joseph, you should start with the first clue and follow the others consecutively to the treasure. Hints in the book are not that organized.f (2014)
- 1Q) Even today, after more than six years of people searching, and after all the news coverage, articles, and stories written about your secreted treasure, some people are just learning about your Thrill of the Chase treasure hunt and getting involved. It continues to inspire. Do you have any advice for these new people? How should they begin the search six years after so many others? Do you feel they are at any disadvantage?
No, fresh eyes and new thinking might provoke a winning idea. I would advise new searchers to look for the clues in my poem and try to marry them to a place on a map. It seems like the longer one thinks about the search the more they complicate the problem.f (Six Questions)
Other things Forrest Fenn has said about finding his treasure chest:
“The person who finds the treasure will have studied the poem over and over, and thought, and analyzed and moved with confidence. Nothing about it will be accidental. T. S. Eliot said:
We shall not cease from our exploration
And at the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time” (Six Questions)
“…..study the clues in the book and thread a tract through the wiles of nature and circumstance to the treasure. If you can find it, you can have it. I warned the path would not be direct for those who had no certainty of the location beforehand, but sure for the one who did.” (Flap on map in Too Far to Walk)
What Forrest Fenn say is the First Clue in his Poem and other Suggestions:
“The first clue in the poem is ‘Begin it where warm waters halt’. That’s the first clue. If you can’t figure that clue out, you don’t have anything.” (New Zealand Interview with Forrest)
What surprises me is that so many ignore the first clue in the poem. Without it all the searcher has is the memory of a nice vacation. Although many have tried, I doubt that anyone will find the blaze before they have figured out the first clue. f (Questions with Forrest)
“The most common mistake that I see searchers make is that they underestimate the importance of the first clue. If you don’t have that one nailed down you might as well stay home and play Canasta.” (Questions with Fenn)
Most of the searchers are very bright and make intelligent comments, either by email or on the blogs, but there seems to be more attention paid to the blaze than to the first clue. Perhaps that’s why the treasure hasn’t been found. f (Questions with Forrest 2016)
Forrest has made the following comments about the poem and clues in general:
“The Clues should be followed in order.” f (Questions with Forrest)
The poem is straight forward with no subterfuge in sight. (Questions with Forrest)
Q) Did the same 9 clues exist when you were a kid and to your estimation will they still exist in 100 years and 1000 years?
A)“The clues did not exist when I was a kid but most of the places the clues refer to did. I think they might still exist in 100 years but the geography probably will change before we reach the next millennia.” (Questions with Forrest)
There are a few words in the poem that are not useful in finding the treasure Phil, but it is risky to discount any of them. You over simplify the clues. There are many places in the Rocky Mountains where warm waters halt, and nearly all of them are north of Santa Fe. Look at the big picture, there are no short cuts. f (2014 Questions with Forrest)
“It seems logical to me that a deep thinking treasure searcher could use logic to determine an important clue to the location of the treasure. Is someone doing that now and I don’t know it? It’s not what they say on the blogs that may be significant, it’s what they whisper.” (Dal’s Blog/Scrapbook)
“Some searchers overrate the complexity of the search. Knowing about head pressures, foot pounds, acre feet, bible verses, Latin, cubic inches, icons, fonts, charts, graphs, formulas, curved lines, magnetic variation, codes, depth meters, riddles, drones or ciphers, will not assist anyone to the treasure location, although those things have been offered as positive solutions. Excellent research materials are TTOTC, Google Earth, and/or a good map.” (Dal’s Blog/ Scrapbook)
“All that will be needed are the clues, some resolve, a little imagination………..” (dust jacket of The Thrill of the Chase)
“If a person reads the poem over and over…and are able to decipher the first few clues in the poem, they can find the treasure chest. It may not be easy, but it certainly isn’t impossible. I could go right straight to it.” (Collected Works video)
Some ending comments:
“All of the information you need to find the treasure is in the poem. The chapters in my book have very subtle hints but are not deliberately placed to aid the seeker. Good luck in the search.”
A polite-like email from Kristie, who admits to being a desk person, prompts me to say that if you are walking long distances in search of the treasure, you’re walking too far. f (Random Words 2016)
“Nobody is going to happen on that treasure chest. You’re gonna have to figure out the clues in the poem and go to it.” (Moby Dickens video, Nov.2, 2013)
Best of luck with all that you seek! Always Treasure the Adventure!
Nice job! Thanks jenny
Thank you Jenny!
Those all seem important if one intends to solve this puzzle. The one that stands out most to me is “It seems the longer one thinks about the search the more they complicate the problem.” I can say without a doubt that has certainly been true for me. I’m decidedly keeping it simple this next season.
After my first spontaneous search with my family in 2015 I would never have dreamed I would be eagerly waiting to head out again nearly four years later. But wait eagerly I do for the spring thaw. I’m definitely hooked.
And while I wait I sit watching the History channel’s “The Curse of Oak Island” where I can watch other obsessed treasure hunters with really deep pockets. My new favorite though is the “Alone” series where I get to watch people do amazing things trying to survive by themselves out in the wilderness. These people literally have to figure out how to catch their food in order to eat.
Ah the things we do to pass the time…until the spring.
Thank you Forrest for the most amazing adventure!
Thanks Pointfoot…..I think all treasure hunting, of all types, are so fascinating and exciting! It’s wonderful to know treasures do exist and are out there to find! Forrest’s is one of the best of course…:)
I agree. One thing I love about “The Chase” is you just need to gather your family, jump in a vehicle, grab a tent and go. It doesn’t require any big investment to participate. What an amazing gift. And the journey itself and the places “The Chase” can take you are so amazing. Don’t forget to stop and soak in the experiences and the memories. Those are the real treasures.
Thanks IllinoisGhost… How you’ve been?
I’ve been great although I find out if I have to have spinal surgery again on Tuesday. Ouch
Oh! sorry to hear about that….. prayers for healing!
Good luck and get well, IG.
I guess in your first one didn’t take? Or did ya plan one and then another later? Hope you get some relief.
Thoughts are with you, IllinoisGhost.
Nice compilation Jenny. Thanks for all you do to assist searchers and Forrest.
I made the cut! Thanks Jenny for a great video!!!
Thank you, Jenny. I greatly appreciate this.
Thanks, Jenny.
I especially like Forrest’s comment clearly stating that he “could go right straight to it”. lol.
I guess I must be going wrong straight to it. 🙂
Thanks, Jenny
it is key. IMO
ff says it will lead you, follow it, marry it, if you can find it you can have it, without it…..he goes on and on about it.
try this..
(esp. tesla shane)
connect all the its in the poem, even the its within words.
so why is it? been wise?
connect all the y’s in the poem (grouping important i think)
and what if ff went alone in, and put in…yup…
connect the groups of ins in the poem.
and what you have other than in-fin-it-y, perhaps the word that is key, is a map of a river a creek a rainbow….more
its the little words that count in poem as a map and all the words most searchers dwell on are only fluff.
‘the things you think are precious i cant understand.” steely dan
however not in other layers
take this map of the poem from ttotc, overlay it in the right spot, follow the eight contiguous its downstream, find the ninth it or ending clue, and boom….beautiful bronze box.
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Sounds like the top twenty countdown on Saturday morning for Forrest Fenn quotes, so next week instead of singing the number 1 we will be running around like crazy people muttering quotes noone understands.
I am getting bored! Snow, snow, go away! I think it’s time for a ski trip down the “bunny hill”! I have Cabin Fever!
Farmers almanac calls for a very long wet spring with so much snow on the cold bunny hill it may be the beginnings of another ice age.
Thanks Jenny for the twenty and a nice compilation for a needed simplification.
Simplify.
Sim pi fly
https://makezine.com/2015/10/17/teen-builds-full-scale-flight-sim/
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/raspberry-pi-and-arduino-to-get-cellular-access-with-sim-card-add-on/
I’m not a fan of cell towers in National Forests. IMO >I’ve said two much already.
Thanks all…..
Hello Jenny. I LOVE your winter time fun video! It looks like everyone had so much fun! I remember being a kid and going down a steep hill in the backyard. Luckily, I was belly down because I landed right in the middle of brambles. Nothing like having to work myself backwards out of that mess. My Mom, two sisters, and I use to slide down on our nylon jackets, or sheets of cardboard during the other seasons. Gosh, we had so much fun.
Thanks pdenver….. we did have lots of fun.
And it sounds like you know how to have it too! Wonderful times and memories!
I have great memories of playing in the snow with my brothers and sisters when I was younger too… Hope my kids will have the same….
I love all the seasons….they all hold their treasures to find…
Wow, my question made it to the top of the list at #1! If anybody finds the treasure, keep me in mind! Thanks for keeping the search fresh, Jenny!
It was a great Question and Answer, Chris. Of course it did! lol…
But it really helps in thinking the clues are to be read like a map— by relating them to geographic locations….
thanks again for your Q to MW …. I feel the fact that Forrest knows the answers will be shared with all, allows him to say more or be more open. That’s the purpose of Questions with Forrest on MW….
“Remember the tale of the dog that finally caught the rabbit”?
Forrest has used the word “geography” twice in Jenny’s pick of 20. I believe there is reference to one more scattered within his comments. He also uses the word “geography” twice in “The Thrill of The Chase” book on pages 81 & 91. Add the spelled numbers up on page 81 in the single paragraph where the word “geography” is then study the surrounding words.
Iceman’s Reading and Reference List …
-The Thrill of the Chase
-Too Far to Walk
-Journal of a Trapper
-Flywater
-Seventeen Dollars a Square Inch
-Fighter Pilot
-The Secrets od San Lazaro Pueblo
-Google Dictionary/Thesaurus
Wow – impressive reading list. You are fortunate to have those books. I have The Thrill of the Chase and a dictionary and on occasion the Internet–which I seldom trust for true value. Would love to borrow–if you were close by. 🙂
… almost forgot ….
Once Upon a While!
lol… I was going to ask, ‘hey, what about Once Upon A While!’….
I haven’t read Fighter Pilot….. hmmm…
I haven’t read Fighter Pilot either.
Time to kick the tires and light the fires and jet…
…to pick up a copy. 🙂
It’s a good time for it, while we watch the O’clock and wait for search season to begin.
Eye Eye, CAP…I mean HAP (Half A Pecan)
We have a little time until it warms up adequately. It isn’t just the snow at 5000 feet that has to melt. There’s much more snow above that…including above 10,200. Many roads don’t open until well into the summer…and until they do…it’s too far to walk.
Forrest said to stay home and drink hot chocolate if you need a snowmobile. I assume that applies to snowshoes as well. Canasta…anyone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGrKWKhPzNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oct4huJkPg
I like this one too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuKCnE6iXM
On an aside, they have side rear view mirrors on those vehicles? (see the 4:35 mark to about 4:60)
Does that mean that, by law because no inside mirror, they have to also have a beeper for when they back up?
Hello half a pecan. Not sure what you’re saying, but the video you posted…WOW! What a rush! Many years ago, my husband and his brother were fishing at Dillon Reservoir. My husband believes it was a F4 that flew in front of them, 15-20′ above the water causing a rooster tail behind him from the water. The pilot nodded to them, went to the dam and flew straight up into the sky. It’s one memory my husband loves to tell. I would have loved to have seen this.
I was just joking around, pdenver. 🙂
And in that spirit, can you imagine if your husband had been casting at the time and hooked that fly-by? Tell him it was his lucky day more than he knows! lol
Is Fighter Pilot a book? I am lost due to too much time roaming the woods.
Possible.
https://www.amazon.com/Fighter-Pilot-Memoirs-Legendary-Robin/dp/0312569513?tag=askcomdelta-20
Fighter Pilot is a great book! Hey they do have side mirrors and a rearview mirror in those birds… I guess so the can see if anyone sneaks up behind them… 🙂
When I watched the “Danger Zone” video posted by half a pecan, I was surprised to see they had them. I think if I saw someone come up from behind me that fast, I’d probably act like a backseat driver and yell, “Brake!” I don’t think the Air Force would have assigned me a jet. lol
They have something interesting. They have see-theough vision in their helmuts. They can see thripgh the plane’s cockpit as they look down.
Fighter Pilot is a book referenced in Too Far to Walk. You haven’t read that one either have you? The book is about legendary Air Force pilot Robin Olds.
My advice … if you want to “decipher” the poem, you’ll need to discover the rules … Fenn’s rules. Anything less will lead to confusion. My opinion.
Confirmative, Iceman.
I wanted to know if Forrest would like to keep ‘the solve’ a secret after the chest is found. It is most tempting to reveal the genius behind it. But for me, I would rather keep the spirit of the hunt alive. Therefore, I would reveal the find as well as the chest, but not the solve. I might even leave at least part of the treasure to be found by the next person. Would ff rather see the same or would he rather seize the opportunity to throw the veil?
Good question to as Forrest Fenn, Jenny. Or it is purely a strategy option of the finder? Me, I might want to publish three plausible solves and leave everyone guessing. But that’s just me.
Ask
Not sure for me. I don’t think I would say much at all which is fine because I am an outcast from most everything and blocked from blogs. I would leave it totally up to ff to disclose whatever he wants. I am a fun-loving person who isn’t into much media attention–however, the last interviewer seemed different and I wouldn’t mind interacting with him. He appeared more fun and less interested in serious probing. Seems like my kind of ‘friend’. In the end, I would leave all of it to ff or his representative (unless ff requests something). Besides, I don’t think I am creative enough to put together three plausible solves 🙂 You are interesting, Iceman.
Stick around Pen Ghost, and maybe some of that creativity from f will rub off on you.
Thanks. Creativity in some things is good. It’s all about finding the things that bring peace that matter to involve creativity for fun and enjoyment.
If you are serious about the Fenn treasure hunt, you are more likely to get carpal tunnel than a bear bite.
Ha! Good one iceman!
A notice from last March’s “Nuts’n’Bear-ies Monthly, a Publication By Griz’s for Griz’s”:
“Beware, Fenn Treasure hunters are expected to be out early this year. Take all precautions as they are unpredictable and temperamental.”
“Precautions include awareness of your surroundings and a pic-a-nic basket.”
“Pic-a-nic basket instructions: Pack with a can of Budweiser, three frogs, a can of Underwood Deviled Ham, and a loaf of bread. A jar of mayo is optional but a plus.”
“When you get to your destination, place the pic-a-nic basket in a prominent spot and remove the can of Budweiser and the three frogs.
Place on top. Gently prod the frogs until they start singing “Bud-Wei-Ser”. This will attract the attention of the Fenn treasure seekers as they are noted to be somewhat tunnel visioned. This will distract them and allow quick escape.”
“Drink the beer at your own risk.”
That’s quite a spread, half a pecan.
I remember my Mom serving my sisters and me Underwood Deviled Ham and Spam for lunches. Plenty of Chef Boyardee, too. Now, I would run from the stuff. Anyone else been served these things as a kid?
Yep.
I loved the stuff too. But then, I liked school cafeteria food too.
I loved spam so much that I ate a whole can of it. But then I got sick, lol. Couldn’t handle it for years afterwards.
I still love a good deviled ham with Miracle Whip and lettuce.
When I played HS football, during “two’a’days” we had to pack our own. I was pretty tired from those practices so I just started packing jars of baby food. Beef or chicken and peaches or pears. Not bad, not bad at all!
School cafeteria food was a break for my sisters and me. Had Spam sandwiches, many times fried, which wasn’t too bad. Ate a whole can? I couldn’t imagine. It’s strange how you mention baby food. My Mom use to eat some of it as an adult. I think her favorite was peaches. I don’t know how she did it, but she did.
Well, as long as you’re not expecting “peaches” it’s pretty good stuff. 🙂
I’m sorry, I don’t understand.
I just mean that the baby food is so processed it doesn’t really taste like peaches. Peachy, but not peaches. And certainly has a different texture.
Still good though.
Not sure what kind of baby food you’re eating.
https://www.gerber.com/products/product/gerber-1st-foods-peach
Well, this was many years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOXAkJmQUk0
Remember most.
Best all time commercial, in my opinion.
I still choke up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3eQmzw6n3k
I was in the kitchen when this commercial came on. My family were teary-eyed when they explained it to me. I don’t recall if I got to see it the day after the Super Bowl on The Today Show. I do agree with you.
I watched the second tower fall on live t.v. That was a devastating moment.
Americans though!
My sister ran a lab in Detroit that was centered between a circle of something like 6 hospitals. This was a big time position. And yet she and some others took a leave of absence to go to NY and washed blankets for 12-16 hours a days to help.
That’s America for ya.
And she was just a stinkin’ lousy no good liberal.
Got to love them for caring so much!
It was a horrible day, Cocoa nut. I remember watching the same and I was truly stunned. While watching the towers burn, I felt I knew what was going to happen, and it did, and I felt sick to my stomach when it happened. Definitely a scene that won’t escape my memories. Your sister was very kind to do what she did. America…definitely!
I was fitting doors on a greenhouse when my mother came out and told me that planes were flying into buildings in New York. I got on the phone with friends at Peacemeal and told them what I saw on tv, since they only had a radio. The thing that stuck with me most, maybe was the next day, the cloudless empty cobalt skies, with never a contrail- I was reminded of it the other day when I flew home from Ypsilanti via Reagan-
Good one, Iceman.
“If you are serious about the Fenn treasure hunt, you are more likely to get carpal tunnel than a bear bite.”
What about TYPOTHERMIA?
I apologize for shouting. That really was uncalled for.
I apologize again. Allow me to correct it. That was something for which no body was calling.
Is that better? 🙂
JC, you may be suffering from typerthermia. Seek a cool place and drink plenty of fluids!
JC1117,
TYPOTHERMIA > Hott, humidd,
due point 67
Car pool tunnel > family mini van
Just back pain for me. So, Iceman, did you get carpal tunnel?
Nope. I got Brittle Bites.
Brownie Brittle Bites
I looked up brittle bites – do not understand. You had me there on the carpal tunnel, but lost me with the brittle bites. 🙂
They are a snack.
Floss between meals. 🙂
American Airlines introduced me to them.
Ahh, I haven’t been on American in a while. United did not serve such a delicacy.
Thanks for putting all of these in one place Jenny… So we are looking for a place on a map using some resolve while keeping an ear out for what they whisper…. true story I sprayed resolve on the map. 🙂
MUD on the chest.? Is that an acronym? My Unique Design? Mud never dries, it is always mud!
Thanks Forrest.
Why would no-one happen upon the chest unless it were buried? Obviously Forrest Fenn found the spot, so why wouldn’t someone else stumble upon it as well? This thinking alone tells me the chest is somewhere remote, but accessible by vehicles
Everything is really making a lot of sense. What’s interesting is that I am having a hard time planning my next search, but I feel confident that nobody else will go there first. Maybe I am saying if I don’t get there this summer.. It doesn’t get found this summer.
I mean, how pompous of me. It just doesn’t even sound like me talking, but you know what? I’d bet money on It- that if I don’t get to my next spot this summer, it doesn’t get found this summer. Isn’t that just nuts? This kind of goes in the same box as why Forrest thinks it won’t be accidentally found.
You’d just never assume that somebody with a stoner name would find it. But actually, those are the only people I run into at altitude. Out there.
It seems to me beginning this quest I may find lots of people just like myself. That’s a treasure upon itself.
I’m curious as to know how does Fenns story become valid.
If he knows right where to go it would be great to see a sample (gold coin,etc.) brought back this season so searches can be sure there is a hunt worth the hype.
Hi Brett, and welcome to the Chase.
If FF were to go get a gold coin, and show a picture of it, would that do any good? People who don’t believe won’t believe.
On the other hand, if a searcher like us were to go find the treasure, why would they take a gold coin and leave the rest? Unless they didn’t want the treasure of the century, of course.