Try I must in hopes ff will answer…
Mr. Fenn,
The “Treasure Chest filled with Gold” and the “Title to the Gold”.
The “Chest” and the “Title”, are these 2 separated objects? ~Mr. T
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No, Mr. T. f
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Sometimes two or three letter word answers say so much. 🙂
Now that isn’t to say, I don’t love long answers too. Which do you like best?
Jenny – My favorite short answer is actually a question:
Why not?
lol…..good one, and it has ‘Six’ letters…..I like it too…
Other inferences could have been made, had Mr. T asked his question differently.
1. Mr T asked if the chest and the title are separated. Forrest answered no. Inference = they are together in the same place.
2. IMO Mr. T. Should have asked if the title to the gold is in related to anything different than the treasure chest and its contents Probably not. Still a curious way to state the question..
is the a blackfoot medicine bag from your collection in there too!!
Mr. Fenn, Nice concise answer. Thank you.
@ Cowboy. No, It’s the blaze. You have to look quickly up from the gold to see the medicine bag.
In my opinion, of course cowboy! Someone has to mess with you after all of that gibberish you post!
Lia and Cowboy – I wouldn’t want to “look quickly down”,…at the gold,…in the Bronze Chest,…then only to “look quickly up” to see these Piegan raiders,…carrying THEIR medicine bags!:
http://hoocher.com/Charles_Marion_Russell/Piegans_1918.jpg
They would probably just want my best horse, Alone in There,…and my long, blonde scalp,…of course. 🙂
Sometimes I pretend I am Osborne Russell,…when it’s REALLY cold outside,…like now,…except that I know I don’t have to worry about being attacked by Blackfeet Indians,…like he did. That’s a relief.
Mr. Fenn,
do you own this CM Russel painting with the Piegan Indians? I love the sky, it takes my mind off blonde scalps that E* brings up just to give me nightmares since I have blonde hair. My granddaddy used to tell me that if I had to stop for lunch in Browning, I should eat a grilled cheese sandwich, not a hamburger. He would never tell me why but said if I ever met Forrest Fenn, he would know the answer. He remembered your NA gallery collecting days.
I didn’t mean to b short and sweet. I was just short of words. Jenny, why don’t you ask your bloggers to answer the question? I’d like to read what they say. f
“Sometimes two or three letter word answers say so much. 🙂
Now that isn’t to say, I don’t love long answers too. Which do you like best?”
I like the answers that gives knowledge or at least, makes me feel smarter for it, even the ones that are not so obvious….The Cold One.
Forrest – I like this example of a short but sweet answer,…to a pivotal question,…from the movie, “Dances with Wolves”:
[talking about the white men coming]
Kicking Bird: How many?
John Dunbar: Like the stars.
Hey E*, sometimes one letter answers are even better don’t you think?
The Wolf – ONLY if that one letter answer is E*:
“Treasure Chest filled with Gold”? = E*
“Title to the Gold”? = E*
Sure E* …. Give or take a few letters 😉
The Wolf – Actually,…you just need to add one small line,…at the bottom of the current owner’s letter,…to get the write answer,…as the result:
F > E*
And THAT line is:
“I give you title to the gold.”
🙂
Hello Forrest,
Well, from my perspective, title = heading!
Example: If you are brave (at no place for the meek) and in the wood (in the right canyon), then you have been on the correct “heading”…..all that is left is to “tarry scant with marvel gaze”!!…..crazy, no??……LOL!!
So, NO, they are not two separate “objects”!!!
loco 🙂
Mr. T’s question is an interesting one. A couple of thoughts come to my mind. First, most human attributes can be defined as good or bad. For example…PRIDE. Pride can be good or bad because it can compel a person to do good or bad things. A mother can be proud of her child…which is a good thing. How does she physically show this? She holds the child close to her heart. She does this by holding the child close to her chest. Sure, there might be a kiss and/or some cheek-to-cheek with a young child, but it almost always accompanies an embrace by bringing the child close to her chest.
The second thought that comes to me is of an Olympic gold medal. When an athlete “wins gold” does a person’s mind typically focus on the “small” gold necklace around their neck? Maybe…a little bit…but the more common understanding of “winning gold” is of a much larger concept or ideal…the blood, the sweat, the tears, the determination, the sacrifice, the struggle, the Victory (etc. etc.) …the TITLE!
So, in this way, “good pride” is linked to the chest and the title. That’s the simple way those two words seem to be linked when I think about it. It may not be exactly what Forrest is thinking…but maybe that’s why I don’t have a “treasure chest filled with gold”. LOL!
Just to note…..if I can….we are having issues at the moment with the site/wordpress on commenting here. Some show, some don’t…..working on it……
That’s ok Jenny, _______I say_____ people don’t read_______so nothi__________to worry __bout.
The “Treasure Chest” is one object. The “Title” is just a word.
Title may not be JUST a word as much as, symbolism, the honor of holding the title. The finder, The first to discover, is now the Proud owner or symbolic of Being the first….If your not the lead dog the view doesn’t change.
Now relating to the poem, what could the first mean?
They can not be two separated objects, since the title is to the chest. That means without the chest, the title means nothing.
At least, I think.
Well I might have got that wrong, I thought Title to the gold was the title of the book meaning The Thrill Of The Chase
Forrest – I don’t even know why Mr. T asked that question,…he CLEARLY already has the Gold and the Title:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/74477/2940939-mrtintro.jpg
It means finders keepers. 🙂
How about: Is the “cold” and the “chest” the same thing? ~ PW
@ E* :)
@ response # 3; … I pity the fool who called me short and sweet!
So much info to process on your – “No”.
So what is “Effort”?
Throw us a metaphor?
Mr T.
Mr. T – Sometimes,…the shortest answer is Forrest’s silence: {}
But I’ll jump on that horse,…and give you MY metaphor for “Effort” (because, as you know,…I like to get an “E* for Effort”):
Forrest Burke Fenn
Burke \b(u)-rke, bur-ke\ as a boy’s name is pronounced berk. It is of Old French origin, and the meaning of Burke is “from the fortified settlement”
Forrest’s F-Fort was his “Fenn Fortress” aka. the Fenn Galleries
http://www.knowingsantafe.com/Listings/Native/0eb8de1a-eded-41fe-9623-6c9e0a897f9e/Public/395/GalleryImage_Large/Matteucci%20Compound_395_634906250990000000.jpg
Wow!! That is abeautiful peaceful spot!!! I have to add that to my list of places to visit… Its getting pretty long by now with everyone posting all these great locations…
Mr. T – And when I said, “F-Fort”,…that is, in fact, equal to Ef-fort”:
Ef (Ф ф; italics: Ф ф) is a Cyrillic letter, commonly representing the voiceless labiodental fricative /f/, like the pronunciation of ⟨f⟩ in “fill”. The Cyrillic letter Ef is romanized as ⟨f⟩.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ef
And interestingly,…as relates to that first Ef symbol above,…and the Golden Ratio:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Phi_uc_lc.svg/1280px-Phi_uc_lc.svg.png
Mathematician Mark Barr proposed using the first letter in the name of Greek sculptor Phidias, phi, to symbolize the golden ratio. Usually, the lowercase form (φ) is used. Sometimes, the uppercase form (Φ) is used for the reciprocal of the golden ratio, 1/φ.[10]
Uppercase and lowercase Greek letter phi, the 21st letter of the Greek alphabet. Times New Roman font.
I think married would be an appropriate word to describe the two objects.
colokidd – You must have looked up the definition for Mr. T’s use of the word, “separated”,…like I did,…and you are referring to number 4. below,…in which case “married” would be a much better word usage:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/separated
sep·a·rate (sp-rt)
v. sep·a·rat·ed, sep·a·rat·ing, sep·a·rates
v.tr.
1.
a. To set or keep apart; disunite.
b. To space apart; scatter: small farms that were separated one from another by miles of open land.
c. To sort: separate mail by postal zones.
2. To differentiate or discriminate between; distinguish: a researcher who separated the various ethnic components of the population sample.
3. To remove from a mixture or combination; isolate.
4. To part (a couple), often by decree: She was separated from her husband last year.
5. To terminate a contractual relationship, as military service, with; discharge.
E*,
I prefer Google’s married/marry definitions.
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Can you supply where ff said ” I finally decided to write TTOTC and add the last two stanzas”.
I do not have every quote that came from ff. Can you supply where and when he said this?
It would be huge if he said this.
Thanks for your input!
No, a separated number?
Maybe Forrest is talking about “NO”. You know…Nitric Oxide. Everybody knows nitric oxide was given the TITLE of “Molecule of the Year” in 1992.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkD0MxNY_Bw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitric_oxide
Fascinating stuff! For example, “inhaled NO can improve hypoxemia in acute lung injury”.
That’s great and all…but I fail to see what’s cute about lung injuries. Who do they think I am?
JC1117 – And when Zeus,…or Forrest,…says, “NO”,…they mean “NO”!
Nitric oxide is a by-product of combustion of substances in the air, as in automobile engines, fossil fuel power plants, and is produced naturally during the electrical discharges of lightning in thunderstorms.
http://weatherglossary.owlinc.org/Free%20Lightning%20Photo.jpg
f,
Thank you kindly for answering my question!
Your reply had a lot to say. “I was just short of words.”
In the same manner on how you worded your poem, is this your cleaver way of saying if I had used a “short version of the word” (separate instead of separated), you would have given a longer reply and the opposite reply of Yes?
The “b” by its self, looked like a “d” when I first read your reply. You left out the letter “e” for a reason.
My theory that the Title is an object, I can on only hope it could be reviled and made into a clue for all of us. Thanks again
Mr.T