Weekly Words from Forrest for September 2nd

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Weekly Words from Forrest

Weekly words for September 2nd, 2016 are as follows:

*Don’t allow your journey to be at odds with reality. f


Best of luck with The Thrill of the Chase and all that you seek!  Treasure the Adventure!

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214 Responses

  1. JL says:

    Wow Thanks F,
    so dont go unless you are 100 percent certain of the outcome. Great advice for those who don’t care to push the edges a little.

  2. Chesney says:

    With that, I guess I better pack up and go home! 🙂 Thank you Mr. Fenn and Ms.Kile! I greatly appreciate all that you have both done!

  3. astree says:

    What is reality? Most of the porblem is figuring out what that is.

    • JL says:

      Really, lets be real 🙂

    • astree says:

      It looks like a whole lot of meaning in this one, as usual.
      Up to the end of “to be” there are 24 letters, and 42 letters altogether in this quote, including the “f”.
      The first letters of the first three words, are DAY, and the first part of the fourth word is DAY (‘jour’, french).

      • JL says:

        astree, you are very good at what you do, do you moonlight for the CIA or is it your DAY job?

      • pdenver says:

        Hello astree. I do enjoy what you have to say and how you figure things out. Brilliant. What about “to be”? Almost sounds Shakespeare-ish to me.

        • pdenver says:

          Ummm…didn’t see that coming. Dang!

          • JL says:

            We all know your eyesight ain’t what it used to be. Ha finally got to use that line, been wanting to use it ever since it got pulled on me.:)

            • pdenver says:

              Oh gosh, JL. You have me dying over here. My “vision” is actually real good. 🙂

              • JL says:

                Come on now, we were holdin our own with the CIA stuff and now you want me to explain the difference between vision and eyesight. Only the government is allowed to dumb everyone down. Shall we start over?

        • astree says:

          Hi pdenver,

          I thought of the Shakespeare connection to, as the phrase “to be …” was central to Hamlet’s life question.
          …also like this : “Don’t allow your journey to beat odds with reality” … beat it with your imagination!

          • pdenver says:

            Hello astree. He has said to use one’s imagination. I’ve tried using mine to try and understand.

          • Chris_ASD1018 says:

            Hi, Astree.

            These Weekly Words have me puzzled…the anagram I see from

            Don’t allow your journey to be at odds with reality. f
            Hi I’d board a jet and fly to w. yellowstone your tutor

            Under what circumstances might that anagram hold true? Could someone have sent Mr. Fenn an email or letter recently asking if there were anything s/he could do after learning of Mr. Fenn’s news that he would be backing away from the computer?

            I think you are the best with these word games…what are your thoughts?



            • astree says:

              Don’t allow your journey to be at odds with reality. f
              Hi I’d board a jet and fly to w. yellowstone your tutor
              Wow, Chris. I hadn’t seen that. Very interesting. The number of anagrams that are possible from that many letters is quite high, so I’d be looking for some sort of guidance / confirmation that suggests that is intended.

              • pdenver says:

                I’m glad you answered Chris, astree. When I looked at his anagram and crossed off letters, I kept telling myself, “But he has an extra f in it.” Didn’t realize until your response that he included f’s initial into the anagram rather than just the quote itself. I big thank you.

                • astree says:

                  Not a problem, pdenver. I only partially verified the anagram, but it looked ok to me. Just like the first letters of the first three words are DAY, the last letters of the last three words are SHY. So, I raelly like the possible multi-level meaning of this week’s words, and I think it’s a point we could build some energy on.

                  In Italy, they have a saying “al di la di la”, which means “beyond the beyond”. And, to keep IT on point, in passing, there is a movie called “The Rome Adventure” which is a reverse acrostic for ART and based on a book that was written about the time Forrest was born, where the Italian song “Al Di La” is featured; Troy Donahue tries to explain the meaning, at the following link


                  but you have to wait for IT a bit … here’s another scene from that link


                  Good luck, pdenver

                • astree says:

                  now seeing an earthquake just hit at Pawnee, OK reaching up to NE, but not as far as the search area.

              • Joe Sparrow says:

                I would say after reading many of Mr. Fenn’s writings, and seeing how magically and smoothly he is able to hide things, that the anagram above would not be in his league. His message would be far better. Although I don’t really believe the above is an anagram, I would think it might start with “don’t follow…” I’m not going to spend 3 hours working on a solution though. I think I’ll go plant some carrots.

          • anna says:

            Perhaps we could shake the spear and get “To Bee or knot.” Maybe that feather tickles someone imagination, or blows off some steam anyway… 4 ds make a bee.
            2 4s make a pitchfork – colters hell or pitchfork ranch, 4 x 4 gets you into Wyoming. 2x4s leave you lumbering in empty land. Don’t mind my rambling, my mind is wandering thru reality wondering if dreams ever due come true.

            • JL says:

              Some of us were born to ramble, sorry your mind seems so scattered blame it on FF for putting all these crazy Ideas in everyone’s head. I slept like a baby and dreamed of an old friend of mine that passed about 10 years ago, it was sure good to see him. He held his index finger up to his lips like he had a secret.
              Pitchfork Ranch I know this place, reading the article about F stopping for gas near there is what sent me on a look see. Funny thing is I read that article about six months before I ever learned he had hid a chest in the RM’s. Now Coulter’s hell is a different story, Yes I know what he’s talking about but to find that precise spot from his vantage might take some time. It does blow off a lot of steam for sure, I have always been high strung like a fiddle but on the outside, I’m smooth and mellow.

              I have been nailing 2×4 with no end in sight, my wife sure is taking advantage of her free labor. I might be done in another month but by then it will bee to late in the year search unless you know precisely where it’s at, I was sure hoping to bee able to see my newest favorite spot in the fall. That is my reality.

    • William says:

      Means use imagination?
      I take it that the final resting place of the chest is a metaphor of instructions instead of reality of left and right turns

    • Thomas says:

      I think he saying, ” If you have a spot picked out, plain the day’s ahead of time, take care of your every day reality choir’s first and the journey will begin!! ” No worry’s ” stay focus, no Tablets, no Business deals, no balancing the check book or the odds just stack against you of having that thrill of that chase. Leave the real world behind for a little while and have some fun.

  4. JDA says:

    *Don’t allow your journey (through life, or in search of the TC) to be at odds with reality.” f (SIC)
    Just my brief thoughts on a pretty straight-forward quote from Forrest.

    Forrest could be telling HIMSELF – face reality, where you are today physically, and be willing to make a change – HE IS!

  5. Mike Forni says:

    Thanks Ya’ll.

    The asterisk * before the sentence brings me back to page 15 of the TTOTC, where SIZE MATTERS! That’s right SIZE MATTERS!

    On Fenn’s Birthday he gave us GREAT, BIG BOLD LETTERS and he said save your smile until after you “raise the lid”. Most people thought he was referring to his treasure chest. Under my solve, it’s related to his hidden burial spot,. A burial chamber underground. This is consistent on why he will not answer the long standing question of whether the treasure chest is “buried.” It’s underground but it’s techically not buried, but then again what do I know.. My family members say I am a “terrible” treasure hunter.

    Happy Hunting!

    • JL says:

      I was always told it’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog. I always try to take that to heart.

      • JC1117 says:

        Great quote, JL.

        I think this kid exemplifies that exactly that…just ask him. 🙂


        And he doesn’t even need a change of underwear. He’s prepared for whatever might happen…suddenly. We could all learn from this kid.

        He’s got the heart of Rocky. Now he just needs to be in the mountains north of Santa Fe.

        Thanks again, Forrest and Jenny. It’s always enjoyable to come here and see what surprise is next.

        …but will I make any sense of it?


        See? I’m learning from that kid already. 🙂

        • astree says:

          Very cute, JC1117. At the end of the “Rocky Balboa” movie (where he pulls on “the stuff in the basement”, to go with your video clip, lol) , while the credits are rolling, they have several minutes of video clips showing real people at the tops of the stone steps of the Philadelphia Art Museum, emulating the Rocky exercises he did there. I thought it was an interesting change to the usual credits.

        • astree says:

          Another commercial …


          … sometimes I feel like the one She’s talking to … but which one ?

    • Chesney says:

      Don’t be so critical of yourself, at least you are trying! 🙂 It is underwater in a culvert, and buried in dirt. Now you know where it is both hidden and buried! 😀

  6. Mike Forni says:

    JL – One of my favorite quotes! Mike

  7. Washaufizzi says:

    He made the trip in one day. Don’t exceed or fall short of that considering the time he could have traveled and hidden treasure.


  8. Milan says:

    Pretty simple, imo. He’s telling us not to gamble our life responsibilities in the pursuit of a dream. Keep it real – keep it fun – keep it as a hobby – but don’t let this quest ruin your life or relationships. Just my 2 cents.

    • Strawshadow says:

      The question what is safe comes to mind? Keep it real by following your dreams even when they seem out of reach? Trust in yourself and set your own limitations. Don’t fall prey to those who think they know but don’t, maybe they just can’t. Enjoy your weekend everyone.

  9. Strawshadow says:

    Too late, the ring has been played, the reverberation heard. In silent repose like the eye of the hurricane, or time in an hourglass overturned. Tighten your corset and tether your bet to a place in the Rockies and a sandy one yet. If odds are at even, I’ll wager with reason, and tilt the kilt towards the kid without guilt. He’s loaded for bear and fit as a fiddle, as Rocky can see, he’s made to meddle. Or something like that.

  10. Joe Sparrow says:

    As the rapper E “zag” Levram recently said “pursue your dreams, but pursue reality first”–or something to that

  11. BW says:

    Through hard work and imagination, yesterday’s dream can become tomorrow’s reality.

    • pdenver says:

      Hello BW. I like this. Thank you for posting it.

      • BW says:

        Thanks pdenver, I owe it “all” to my mother and father. My work ethic comes from my father and my imagination knows no limit because of my mother. If I asked her once, I asked her a thousand times to tell all the childhood stories, over and over and over, she never said no. If I told you I was sitting on her cotton sack as she picked cotton, would you believe me?

  12. locolobo says:

    LOL!! Thanks again, Forrest!!
    You also gave us this, a few months back: *”If you know precisely where it is you can probably retrieve it in any weather”
    Per you, reality is that the chest can probably be retrieved at any time, even on January 1.
    …..So, why are many people searching areas that would realistically be impossible to access on January 1?? 🙂

    • pdenver says:

      Hello locolobo. With today’s “Weekly Words” coming from the many Jenny received months ago, what are your thoughts or connections to which you’ve mentioned? Especially, if both could have followed the other (one week’s time) and been posted?

  13. JohnR says:

    Reality is a 79 or 80 year old man walked there by himself, so if your journey involves swimming, canoeing, mountain climbing, hiking, rappelling, magic, curses, etc. Then don’t. 🙂

  14. Muset says:

    Great one. Thanks a lot Jenny and Forrest. I’ll take another shot at it in a few weeks..

  15. jonsey1 says:

    Don’t confuse a trip with a trip 😉 although both are certainly too far to walk….one is the difference between the fall and the catch. Like Autumn leaves and pine tar teas(e)

  16. JL says:

    Which is needed, your journey to be in harmony with reality or reality to be in harmony with your journey? What would happen if you refuse both and just wonder what’s next?

    • pdenver says:

      Hello JL. I read your questions earlier this evening and I wondered how I might answer. It didn’t come easy. My thoughts are one’s journey IS their reality…their truth. Part of the whole in which surrounds them. Not sure if it makes sense to you or others. It’s the best way I could explain. I’d love to see how others would respond.

      • JC1117 says:

        Hello, Pdenver.

        “One’s journey IS their reality…their truth.”

        I like that. Of course, the journey is affected by many factors…some of which we control…and others beyond our control. Our own perceptions and beliefs affect our reality…as they influence our decisions.

        Faith is an interesting concept…the belief in things not “absolutely” known or seen…for many, a belief in an infinite reality beyond this temporary/mortal reality we are all experiencing.

        I am a firm believer in The Infinite…and a Universe which is ruled by Infinite Laws…of Justice…and Mercy.

        I like the quote from Albert Einstein that E* shared below.

        “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.” – Albert Einstein

        I also like this little poem by The Moody Blues.

        “Late Lament”

        Breathe deep the gathering gloom,
        Watch lights fade from every room.
        Bedsitter people look back and lament,
        Another day’s useless energy spent.
        Impassioned lovers wrestle as one,
        Lonely man cries for love and has none.
        New mother picks up and suckles her son,
        Senior citizens wish they were young.
        Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
        Removes the colours from our sight.
        Red is grey and yellow white.
        But we decide which is right.
        And which is an illusion?

        • JC1117 says:

          Great Albert Einstein quote, btw. 🙂 LOL.

          • JC1117 says:

            But Einstein DID say this…

            “Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.”

            (Einstein: 1955 – letter to the family of Michele Besso)

  17. Strawshadow says:

    Nghmares and dreams can also get creaned.

  18. Onuat says:

    Curiosity killed the cat. 🙂 Odds and ends of reality.
    Just remember when they say it isn’t real,it’s real.

  19. Strawshadow says:

    Thats not far fletched from where I was aiming. Cepestoe in the dark is where, my first dream creaned to there. Lol

  20. Chesney says:

    Getting dark out here in the Rockies, but tomorrow is a new day!

  21. Chris_ASD1018 says:

    *Don’t allow your journey to be at odds with reality. f

    How does this read if

    “journey” = “life” and “reality” = “chest”

    as compared to

    “journey” = “chest” and “reality” = “life”


    • pdenver says:

      Hello Chris. I like your thoughts. What are your thoughts for the following?:

      “Journey” = “Life”
      “Reality” = “Truth/Fact”
      “Life” + “Truth/Fact”= “Existence”

  22. John Boy says:

    My name is Chris. I am in West Yellowstone right now 9/3/2016 12:49AM. Over the last few months I believed that FF was speaking to me on different blogs and websites. Maybe he was maybe he wasn’t. I am here to tell everyone and I truly hope everyone reads this…. I WAS WRONG. I went CLOSE to my place today and it just wasn’t possible for me, or in my opinion, ANYONE to go to my solve. My solve was 200 ft East of the top of Farie’s Fall. Not Farie Falls. It is with most people spoken both ways. Regardless, from Google Earth’s view it seemed as if I would be able to scale to the top with difficulty but not impossibility. Then I was there. I can tell everyone right now if FF went to the top of Farie’s Fall at the age of 79 or 80 he should be selling whatever he is taking. I am 50 and even if I was in the greatest of health and were a professional mountain climber NO WAY. FF stated a child could go there with help. The top of Farie’s Falls would require help from a helicopter for a child. Again I was wrong.

    I am assuming that FF, when he stated in his poem, “there will be no paddle up your creek” that is is an actual creek and not named a stream or a river. I know of a no named creek that is very overlooked by everyone. I will be there tomorrow. Am I right? I doubt it. I still enjoy being here and so does my lady.

    We have been to Yellowstone 3 times now in the last 2 years. Yes it costs and yes even though we haven’t found it and we do not expect to it was worth every dollar.

    Thank You Mr Fenn and GOD Bless,

    Hoping you feel better soon,
    John Boy

    PS, I was quite concerned about traveling alone today back to Farie’s Fall. Along the way I met 3 young ladies walking the entire loop and I would bet none of them were over 15. They had no bear spray, no bear bells, no way to defend themselves. I was however alone and had no problems. My personal view? There wasn’t a bear there today THAT WAS NOTICED, and many people were lucky to NOT have a bear encounter. Tomorrow is a different day and bears don’t listen even IF you were to tell them not to go there. GO PREPARED FOR THE WORST and hope for the best. To assume that there is no danger is a fools folly. Maybe I was overly concerned but sometimes overly concerned MIGHT just save your life.
    To paraphrase… No matter where you go on this search ASSUME THE WORST, Prepare for the worst and be glad IF nothing happens.

    GOD bless everyone,
    John Boy

    Jenny, If you have received this email multiple times I apologize. The internet service here is very lacking and constantly telling me I am not connected. My apologies

    • pdenver says:

      Hello Chris/John Boy. Glad you had a good time and came prepared. The bears are going to be out in full force preparing for hibernation, so it is best to take every precautions. Good luck in your search and be safe.

      • John Boy says:

        Hello pdenver,

        I have asked many people throughout the park if there have been any bear encounters here or there. Right now there are several “controlled” fires in the area. I have been told that this has pushed the animals back beyond where we humans normally go. This afternoon my lady and I saw our first Elk Buck. His rack was HUGE. He had 4 females with him. The fires didn’t push them back. I would not begin to assume that they have pushed bears back either. Wild animals do not necessarily follow what we humans think they might. They are after all wild. Take all precautions and come back alive….. even if empty handed you have much to be thankful for.

        I would ask everyone, if you go searching and you have enjoyed yourself please send FF a SMALL note of your appreciation. As I understand things he could use it right now. We all have FF to thank for our getting off of the couch and seeing this country as he intended.

        Be safe and GOD bless everyone in the Chase

        John Boy

        • pdenver says:

          Hello John Boy. It would make sense the animals would be changing their Spring/Summer habitats and head for their Fall/Winter ones. I am extremely happy you and your lady got to see your very first bull elk. Seeing one with huge antlers are amazing. I love seeing the 7-8 point ones in Yellowstone. If you’re from back East, they count all points, if I’m not mistaken, which would be 14-16 points. Elk seem to be one of the last ones to head up. It’s rutting season for them, so they’ll be around and gathering their harem. I’ll be in Rocky Mountain National Park this month camping and should see them and hear their majestic bugles, if you want to call it majestic. The high pitched sound is amazing to hear coming from one of nature’s beautiful animals. I’m glad the bears weren’t seen. If they were, the Park Rangers would use their special firearms they use to pelt beanbags at their bottoms to scoot them back into the woods and keep them away from human contact and vice versa. I agree. I’ve heard about the fires there. When I was in Yellowstone in July, the only fire we encountered was the one in the area of Dubois, WY. It was at the extreme beginning when we came upon it…small plume, but we could see it was quickly growing. No one was attending to it. It was that fresh. With the news of the fire north/in West Yellowstone, I had wondered how Mr. Fenn was feeling. I’m sure he’s been back in the area(s) many times. I know it’s part of nature and nature takes care of what needs to be done, but it must be disappointing, too. Yes, new growth will happen and things will/should be greener than ever. May God bless you and yours, too.

  23. Wild Bill says:

    Another reference to A.E. maybe?

  24. E* says:

    Astree – What Einstein would reply to Forrest’s quote:

    “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
    – Albert Einstein

  25. Chesney says:

    astree , E*, et al. I believe that being dedicated and persistent are Very important to the final solve. Look how long it has been… 6 years or more! My family is ready to call the people to extract me and put my butt in a pink padded cell, with a pink straight jacket and helmet.. so I am comfortable and can’t hurt myself! 😀

  26. Chesney says:

    Life is fiction, death is where reality begins to take place!

  27. Joe Sparrow says:

    Ok– so we’ve got the CIA, Castro, Cubans who are angry, the Mob, LBJ and…… oh wait a minute this isn’t the JFK conspiracy thread is it? Sorry about that. No new luck with the poem either though. I’ll post if I see anything new.

  28. Kim says:

    You guys/gals need LOVE!

  29. Michelle says:

    Anyone interested in going to my solve?

  30. Michelle says:

    It relates to one word being key.

  31. Michelle says:

    One more is the treasure is real. If that clicks with anyone let me know.

    • JL says:

      We are all related on a cosmic level, which treasure are you talking about?

    • Strawshadow says:

      Michelle the way we people think, all things click. About “one word being key”, off the top of my head I believe “a few are in tight focus with a word that is key” was what Mr. Fenn said. More than one word could be key. And yes the treasure is real and yes that does click. Why don’t you go and search yourself that’s what it’s all about:)

    • HeadedDown says:

      Yes, the treasure is real, and it’s out there somewhere. Your solve is as good as anyones. 🙂 Circumstance isn’t the same however. I’ll live stream to ya, and do 1/2 off base per day, and require a down payment. 🙂 no one knows. So maybe you do or will. Just gotta look.

  32. Michelle says:

    Sorry. I was being way to vague. My WWH is Lodore. Not far but too far: to me relates to a song, which also is home of brown. I can continue if you would like

  33. 23kachinas says:

    Most everything Forrest says goes way over my head and I do not comprehend the intended significance from his words. Maybe later it will all make sense? My travels have taken me to some interesting finds.

    That being said, I named my bronze hummingbird Maya for a reason and I had no outside help until later understanding the deeper meaning of Maya from my Indian friend Tulasi. Around the same time I figure out the meaning of Maya I took a trip to Santa Fe and was able to get into the guest house quarters of the Nedra Mettucci gallery. It was there I saw a wooden carving of Saraswati which Forrest had written a post it note with description and a price code CYE4: http://i68.tinypic.com/2jbusy9.jpg

    His reply to sending the picture was “Did you notice that my code said I gave $3,500 for her? f”

    The location of Saraswati was in the master bath near a large sunken tub which is no longer used. If you get a chance to see it for yourself open the wooden door to see the hand written note. It’s a real life treasure to see it in person and has been a highpoint on my journey.

    “…Maya is not illusion, it is the creator of illusion. Maya is not false, it is that which gives false impressions. Maya is not unreal; it is that which makes the real appear unreal and the unreal appear real. Maya is not duality, it is that which causes duality.”
    – Meher Baba

    • JL says:

      Humm, that code doesn’t match up with the one on the TC. Could he have changed his system later? Or is he not telling what he actually gave for the chest.

    • Joe Sparrow says:

      23kachinas: Could be:

      CYE4:. C= third letter = 3 , Add “Y” = thirty. E=fifth letter. So, 35.

      4 = add 4 zeroes. 3500.00.

  34. Michelle says:

    To me the word that is key is effort.

  35. Michelle says:

    Ok Chesney. Care to indulge in my solve to see what you think??

    • Chesney says:

      Key is not in music Ma’am, but you do have a creative mind… I will say that! Old, Bold, Cold and Gold! 🙂

      • Michelle says:

        Sorry. I meant piano key.

        • Chesney says:

          Think you lost me Michelle. Key of G?

          • Michelle says:

            Here’s a bit of my “solve”. The poem Lodore is my WWH. Not far but too far to walk HOB is Quincy Jones song Tomorrow Today also with ray Brown but would refer to Jones Hole. Not brown park where others have thought. No place for the meek also a part of the song. The end drawing nigh is steamboat rock cause it looks like a sharks FIN (end). No paddle up your creek: Pats Hole. Heavy loads waters high also steamboat rock. Blaze is weber sandstone sandwiched between other layers. Tarry scant: Terry Tempest maybe. So hear me all: Jenny Lind Rock; Hear Ye Isreal written for her with a F sharp-effort worth the cold. She was referred to as the snow queen….

  36. Joe Sparrow says:


  37. Michelle says:

    And my word that is key refers to a music key.

    • Mike Forni says:

      Hi Michelle, is it “note”? Please share.. And please share how you have applied it to your solve, if you feel like “sharing”. Thanks, Mike

      • Michelle says:

        September 4, 2016 at 6:34 pm
        Here’s a bit of my “solve”. The poem Lodore is my WWH. Not far but too far to walk HOB is Quincy Jones song Tomorrow Today also with ray Brown but would refer to Jones Hole. Not brown park where others have thought. No place for the meek also a part of the song. The end drawing nigh is steamboat rock cause it looks like a sharks FIN (end). No paddle up your creek: Pats Hole. Heavy loads waters high also steamboat rock. Blaze is weber sandstone sandwiched between other layers. Tarry scant: Terry Tempest maybe. So hear me all: Jenny Lind Rock; Hear Ye Isreal written for her with a F sharp-effort worth the cold. She was referred to as the snow queen….

        • Mike Forni says:

          So all 9 clues relate to music? Or have a music key to them? Have I understood your key correctly?

        • Lindsay D. says:

          Jones Hole, while offering four of the most beautiful campsites in the world (just watch out for the prankster ring-tail cats if you leave a messy camp) is not actually in the Rocky Mountains. Although it would line up with ‘treasures new and old’ because of the famous Deluge Shelter petroglyphs, interestingly enough. Butt Stop falls is worth the hike, too. I do highly suggest trying to get there at some point, by river preferably, although the permits are damn near impossible to snag these days. Beautiful place, some bears. Running it around 2000 cfs is an excellent way to find some ‘not for the meek’ good times.

          I actually wonder some about the Rocky Mountain designation because the westernmost edge of the Rocky Mountains in Colorado is after the Grand Hogback formation that runs from Marble to Meeker. After that, it’s technically the Colorado Plateau… Not sure if he’s going for a technical or common-use definition though.

  38. JDA says:

    The word (s) that are key, for me = “The Wood”. A little known definition of “The Wood” directs
    the searcher to a particular part or area of Wyoming. This leads to “IN there of stanza #1, which
    leads the searcher to wwwk, and is therefore the “KEY” to it all.
    Just the mutterings of an old fool.


  39. Michelle says:

    In the wood I’m guessing refers to Box Elder Park. Above 5000 ft. Inside his map. Wet. And somewhere a 80 year old and three year old can go…. Also wise could refer to elder

  40. Michelle says:

    Look at a picture of an Anasazi flute. There’s your frog

  41. Joe Sparrow says:

    As the policeman says to Dubois in the Pink Panther— or it could be Clouseau I don’t remember: “Inspector, you are sharing entirely too much information”.

  42. JL says:

    Thanks Clouseauordubois

  43. Michelle says:

    Sorry. I just enjoy solving things

    • JL says:

      Why be sorry? I like challenges and doing things for myself. An expert had a first time at what they do. It is easy to find a picture of the flute but not so easy with a frog also, a couple of tadpoles is about as close as I got. The frog perhaps emerged from the sipapu , and represents a fertile wet field. This is a scratch on the surface.

  44. Chesney says:

    It would “blow your minds”, if you knew the key ! Or the starting point! 🙂

    • Mike Forni says:


      Have you posted to tease or enlighten? Are you calling a thirsty dog to water only to kick it? You have caught the attention of a drifting dog searching for knowledge so please enlighten. What is your key? And what is the beginning?


      • Chesney says:

        The solve is intricate, but simple. I have to get to it before I want to say too much. Been BOTG for too long to throw it all away. Best Regards, Kenny!

  45. Thomas says:

    I have spread my dreams beneath your feet. Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
    W.B. Yeats

    Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined.
    Henry David Thoreau

    Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.
    Harriet Tubman

    Reach high, for stars lie hidden in your soul. Dream deep, for every dream precedes the goal.
    Pamela Vaull Starr

    It is precisely the possibility of realizing a dream that makes life interesting.
    Paulo Coelho, The Alchemist

    All men dream but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes to make it possible.
    T.E. Lawrence

    Our truest life is when we are in dreams awake.
    Henry David Thoreau

    So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains
    And we never even know we have the key.
    Lyrics from Already Gone, peformed by the Eagles for their 1974 On the Border album

    The end of wisdom is to dream high enough not to lose the dream in the seeking of it.
    William Faulkner

    Those who lose dreaming are lost.
    Australian Aboriginal Proverb

    I like the dreams of the future better than the history of the past.
    Patrick Henry

    No one has ever achieved anything from the smallest to the greatest unless the dream was dreamed first.
    Laura Ingalls Wilder

    Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly.
    Lanston Hughes

    The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.
    Eleanor Roosevelt

    Not to dream boldly may turn out to be simply irresponsible.
    George Leonard

    Commitment leads to action. Action brings your dream closer.
    Marcia Wieder

    Dreams are the touchstones of our character.
    Henry David Thoreau

    The question for each man to settle is not what he would do if he had means, time, influence and educational advantages; the question is what he will do with the things he has. The moment a young man ceases to dream or to bemoan his lack of opportunities and resolutely looks his conditions in the face, and resolves to change them, he lays the corner-stone of a solid and honorable success.
    Hamilton Wright Mabie

    The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up.
    Paul Valery

    A skillful man reads his dreams for self-knowledge, yet not the details but the quality.
    Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Our waking hours form the text of our lives, our dreams, the commentary.

    Hope is the dream of the waking man.
    French Proverb

  46. JL says:

    One dream contains the vastness of a universe in the eye of a needle.

  47. Michelle says:

    The country beyond the road may seem like a monotonous land of shrubs. However, the more you know, the more you see. Walk the trail, stretch your legs; and discover. When you get back to your car, the country beyond the road won’t look so monotonous anymore.

  48. Thomas says:

    What is the meaning of life? Why is it that people grow old and die?

    Although he was young, those questions troubled the mind of Little One. He asked the elders about them, but their answers did not satisfy him. At last he knew there was only one thing to do. He would have to seek the answers in his dreams.

    Little One rose early in the morning and prayed to Wah-Kon-Tah for help. Then he walked away from the village, across the prairie and toward the hills. He took nothing with him, no food or water. He was looking for a place where none of his people would see him, a place where a vision could come to him.
    Little One walked a long way. Each night he camped in a different place, hoping that it would be the right one to give him a dream that could answer his questions. But no such dream came to him.

    At last he came to a hill that rose above the land like the breast of a turkey. A spring burst from the rocks near the base of a great elm tree. It was such a beautiful place that it seemed to be filled with the power of Wah-Kon-Tah. Little One sat down by the base of that elm tree and waited as the sun set. But though he slept, again no sign was given to him.

    When he woke the next morning, he was weak with hunger. I must go back home, he thought. He was filled with despair, but his thoughts were of his parents. He had been gone a long time. Even though it was expected that a young man would seek guidance alone in this fashion, Little One knew they would be worried. “If I do not return while I still have the strength to walk,” he said, “I will die here and my family may never find my body.”

    So Little One began to follow the small stream that was fed by the spring. It flowed out of the hills in the direction of his village, and he trusted it to lead him home. He walked and walked until he was not far from his village. But as he walked along that stream, he stumbled and fell among the roots of an old willow tree.

    Little One clung to the roots of the willow tree. Although he tried to rise, his legs were too weak.
    “Grandfather,” he said to the willow tree, “It is not possible for me to go on.”

    Then the ancient willow spoke to him. “Little One,” it said, “all the Little Ones always cling to me for support as they walk along the great path of life. See the base of my trunk, which sends forth those roots that hold me firm in the earth. They are the sign of my old age. They are darkened and wrinkled with age, but they are still strong. Their strength comes from relying on the earth. When the Little Ones use me as a symbol, they will not fail to see old age as they travel along the path of life.”

    Those words gave strength to Little One’s spirit. He stood again and began to walk. Soon his own village was in sight, and as he sat down to rest for a moment in the grass of the prairie, looking at his village, another vision came to him. He saw before him the figure of an old man. The old man was strangely familiar, even though Little One had never seen him before.

    “Look upon me,” the old man said. “What do you see?”
    “I see an old man whose face is wrinkled with age,” Little One said.

    “Look upon me again,” the old man said.

    Then Little One looked, and as he looked, the lesson shown him by the willow tree filled his heart. “I see an aged man in sacred clothing,” Little One said, “The fluttering down of the eagle adorns his head. I see you, my grandfather. I see an aged man with the stem of the pipe between his lips. I see you, my grandfather. Your are firm and rooted to the earth like the ancient willow. I see you standing among the days that are peaceful and beautiful. I see you, my grandfather. I see you standing as you will stand in your lodge, my grandfather.”

    The ancient man smiled. Little One had seen truly. “My young brother,” the old man said, “your mind is fixed upon the days that are peaceful and beautiful.” And then he was gone.

    Now Little One’s heart was filled with peace, and as he walked into the village, his mind was troubled no longer with those questions about the meaning of life. For he knew that the old man he had seen was himself. The ancient man was Little One as he would be when he became an elder, filled with that great peace and wisdom which would give strength to all of the people.

    From that day on, Little One began to spend more time listening to the words his elders spoke, and of all the young men in the village, he was the happiest and the most content.

  49. 5-leaf blaze says:

    Interesting, I had some tantalizing information, but the server won’t post…

  50. Thomas says:

    The last post I promise THE LONG WALK OF THE NAVAJOS

    In the 1860’s, after years of conflict between the US government and the Navajos, the Navajos struck back when the US troops were reduced during the outbreak of the Civil War.

    The US government sent Colonel Kit Carson to settle the uprising. His mission was to gather the Navajo together and move them to Fort Sumner on the Bosque Redondo Reservation. When the Indians refused to move and hid in the Canyon de Chelly, he began a scorched earth policy campaign destroying crops and lifestock, burning villages and killing people until he eventually starved the Navajo into submission in 1864, Carson ordered the destruction of their property and organized the Long Walk to the Bosque Redondo reservation, already occupied by Mescalero Apaches, longtime enemies of the Navajo.

    8,500 men, women and children were marched 400 miles from northeastern Arizona and northwestern New Mexico to Bosque Redondo. Walking in harsh winter conditions for almost two months, about 200 Navajo died of cold and starvation. Many more died after they arrived at the barren reservation.

    Bosque Redondo was a disaster, there were problems with drinking water, sanitation and disease. The land was not suitable for agriculture. Finally after three long years, the government acknowledged the failure of camp and the surviving Navajos were allowed to return to their land hungry and in rags.

  51. Joe Sparrow says:

    Lol— I was telling the readers over on dal’s blog how much this poem has a hold on me. I stayed in bed reading the poem, and didn’t shave until almost 5 o’clock! Then, I wasted another hour reading a book about rodeo clowns.

    Geez, I must really be messed up, because after that I felt closer to finding the treasure. I believe I may be going insane. 🙂

  52. Ellen says:

    Hello Joe Sparrow…your reading both “Crossfire” and a book about rodeo clowns reminded me of when rodeo clown…Harold (Buddy)Heaton…made that unexpected appearance at the 1961 Inaugural Parade mounted on the back of Clyde (his buffalo)…thanks!

  53. Joe Sparrow says:

    Ellen— I thought you were joking. Buddy Heaton did crash the parade in 1961. Did you know JFK had him perform for him twice after that? I have learned some of the oddest and most interesting things since investigating this poem started a month ago with me. I have to thank Forrest again for opening the door to so many things thru this poem. I sure am glad I heard about it.

  54. 5-leaf blaze says:

    I think that what’s really awkward is… When you’ve gone to maybe a dozen spots specifically related to the poem, and you find valuable things that are not the intended box. But that’s about all I’d say.

  55. 5-leaf blaze says:

    No, really, mining equipment and various 100+ year old items, some 700-800 year old items, and various 12,000 year old items, oversized liths that had been missed all this time. But it was the windmill that had this whine in the wind, it jammed like Metallica. It had these solar arrays, and some kind of surveillance equipment perhaps, but the well was capped. This one is my new spot.

  56. 5-leaf blaze says:

    Can you “hear” me now. You know? One of those haunted treasure hunter moments. Is this we would think we are close, and that recent references point to us being there? That kind of thing

  57. Chesney says:

    I have a new strategy, “Mind over matter, if ya don’t Mind it Don’t Matter”!

  58. Chris says:

    Wanted to update everyone on my search above Fairie’s Fall. I went back yesterday and tried to go up. I got about 3/4 of the way up and it just got too steep to go any further. I could see the path through the rock about 30 ft in front of me and I might have been able to make it but the problem was what would happen if I lost my footing going further up OR coming down. There are trees down everywhere. If you have been to Yellowstone you are aware of this. The trees however have many partial branches left normally between 6″ and 12″ long. It is reasonable to say that each tree has at least 12 of these. If you loose your footing going up you probably would’t be able to stop your fall and in my opinion those branches would gore you on your way down. That’s not to mention the rocks you would hit or that you would dislodge on your way down that would come down on top of you. Long and short.. IT IS NOT SAFE. A child could not go there with a little help. The higher you go the steeper it gets folks. As I stated above I was about 30 feet from the top and at that point there was approximately a 35% incline. I believe from where I was that the incline increases to about 40% with loose rock underfoot. DON’T TRY IT. If he went there he went cross country not up the slope I was going up.

    To find the slope I was going up go to google earth and follow the Fairie’s Fall path. You can walk the path on google earth. Just before you get to Farie’s Fall look to your left. You will see a steep incline where the are no trees. Just loose rock . That’s where I tried to go up.

    Why did I choose this place.

    Begin it where warm waters halt. Where the Firehole and the Gibbon meet. From that point on there are no more geothermal outpourings of hot waters from either river.

    Take it in the Canyon down. The Firehole Canyon

    Put in below the home of Brown. The Nez Perce Creek is where Brown Trout were first deposited in 1890. Prior to that Brown Trout did not exist in Yellowstone.

    From there it’s no place for the meek. The area of Yellowstone beginning immediately after Nez Perce Creek where the Geothermal areas make the ground surface very weak and thin in spots. It can be a deadly area.

    There will be no paddle up your creek. Amethyst Creek leading to Fairie’s Fall.

    Just heavy loads ( the chest and gold) and water high (197ft Fairies Fall)

    If you use Google earth to go to the top of Farie’s Fall and pan around the area close up you will find a white streak 176 ft from the top of Fairie’s Fall. It is another waterfall. Small but it’s there.

    Physics tells me the box is wet said FF

    Physics is the study of matter and motion. If the chest is wet by being underwater motion is not necessary. If the box is wet by rain then the physics quote fits but FF’s statement sounds to me as if the box is wet all the time. I see no other way for that to be possible but by the spray of a waterfall. A waterfall that is off trail that potentially no one knows of. Hence my decision that this could be the place. It still could be but a person going there would have to travel cross country to get there without the worry of falling down the mountain. However traveling cross country opens you up to a higher possibility of bear encounters.

    FF stated a child could go there with a little help. In my opinion this is not a place where I would take a child either cross country or up slope. I won’t go back without a professional guide. I would advise the same for you. Did FF go there? If he did he’s got some cajones folks. DO NOT TRY THIS ALONE.

    John Boy

  59. Chris says:

    I would like to say that FF never stated that he would take a child there but that a child COULD go there with a little help. I believe going cross country that that might be possible. For a man like FF with military training and being shot down into the jungles during his war years I am sure that he is trained to handle such situations. However at 79-80 years old would he actually do it? 2 trips, out and back, across country to that spot would be, in my mind, VERY difficult if not impossible for anyone I have ever known at that age.

    While it seems to me that my solve fits the clues, as FF stated here at the top of the page…”Don’t allow your journey to be at odds with reality. f”

    This solve is not reality.

    One other thing. I remember a woman, I don’t recall who, posting to Dal’s site where she had written FF and asked if the area was handicapped accessible. According to her post FF wrote back and said yes with a little help. I have no idea if her post is honest and genuine or not but I can say definitively that there is nothing about my site that is handicapped accessible. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

    Take care when out on the Chase. It’s getting cold fast in the mountains folks. When I left yesterday days were in the low 40’s and nights in the 20’s

    GOD bless
    John Boy

    • Chesney says:

      I believe you are correct. I Do Not believe it to be Handicapped Accessible, nor will a “small child” be able to access it. Just my obsevation from the “poem”. 🙂

  60. Chris says:

    I keep forgetting to mention my biggest draw to the falls above Fairie’s Fall. If you look at the area and imagine how long it would take for someone to find FF’s remains and the chest IF it where there then you see my desire to go there. NOBODY goes there. Why would they? This is the only spot I have ever thought that he could realistically hide his remains and the chest for a thousand years or more.

    FF spent 3 months there every summer. If I had spent that much time there as a young boy you can bet I would have gone there. I hope he did. At 79-80? ”Don’t allow your journey to be at odds with reality. f”.

    Time to start again.

    GOD bless
    John Boy

  61. Chris says:

    One last thing. As I stated above according to Google Earth measurements from the top of Fairie’s Fall to the other falls is 176 ft.

    I was able to find one person that stated their solve took them to the top of Fairie’s Falls on Dal’s blog.

    FF stated someone had been within 200 ft.

    If you add in the height of the falls, 197 ft plus 30 ft to the edge of the ponding of water at the bottom of the falls you have 403 ft.

    FF stated several people have been within 500 ft.

    Sound convincing? It sure did to me. However I believe in FF’s words…
    ”Don’t allow your journey to be at odds with reality. f”.

    GOD bless
    John Boy

  62. Chris says:

    I thought of one more thing to dissuade anyone from attempting this. Please go to Google Earth and find the Fairie’s Fall trail head located south of the Grand Prismatic Spring. If this were the spot where he hid indulgence then I believe this is where FF would have started from in my opinion. Walk up the Fairie’s Fall trail using Google earth and find a place that looks as if you can climb safely to the top of the mountain. Cross the mountains to the top of Fairie’s Fall. Zoom in on the ground. Look at all of the trees laying on the ground. You will not be walking 100 ft and crossing a tree. You will be walking 2 ft and crossing 2 trees lying across each other. Then 10 ft and crossing 3 trees lying on top of each other then one ft and cross another tree and so on and so on for approximately 2 miles one way with 20 pounds of treasure on your back plus your backpack, water, bear spray, bear bells. Everything you take weighs you down. Just a quick estimate…. you are going to have to cross 300 trees (probably a very low estimate) while walking this approximate 2 mile trek. At 79-80 years old. Then go back to your car and do it all over again. As a military man I believe FF was trained to do such things and I cannot speak to his physical condition at 79-80 however ….. a child can get there easily with a little help?

    It all seemed to fit so well.
    Then it didn’t.

    GOD Bless
    John Boy

  63. Thomas says:

    Got it!! ” As I’m alone in the half light of the canyon, all of excrescence seem to fade leaving only my soul and my memory’s.for me and only me to pounder”.

  64. Jacob says:

    I have tried to share my solve with others that I feel were on the same path and looking in the same area as me, I am surprised how many did not want to collaborate or hear new ideas. I have said before and I will say again, I am very confident and have an imagination that has served me well all my life. Once you see it, the poem and clues fall into place. I have struggled interpreting the last clue but I believe I have it, it took some deep thinking and asking a lot of questions… like how could FF guarantee the traits the person that finds the treasure will have… I will be going to try it out at a specific time when I believe you can see it. Good luck to all those still searching. And for all those who believe in the circle theory… it’s not a circle IMHO. It tells a story about life. Saving my best smile for when I open the lid… Hopefully. 🙂

    • Chesney says:

      Good Luck in your solve. I feel your pain on nobody listens, but I strongly believe that someone is close. That is why Mr. Fenn has taken a long needed break. He is as confident about the person finding it, as the searcher is to their solve. Hope this all makes sense! 🙂

      • Ellen says:

        Good luck to you…Jacob. And then, there is “The Lion King song”…”Circle of Life”…

        ‘It’s the circle of life
        And it moves us all
        Through despair and hope
        Through faith and love
        Till we find our place
        On the path unwinding
        In the circle
        The circle of life”

        Chesney…sometimes “confidence” quietly makes sense. Thank you.

      • Jacob says:

        I believe you are right Chesney… I have emailed FF my thoughts and have not received a response. But his weekly words, comments, statements IMO speak directly to my emails but are put out for everyone to hear. Although I have heard many believe the same thing about his comments, I believe it was my emails that got him excited last year. Has anyone else seen the bell? Or the horseshoe? It takes a little imagination. But everything aligns. If you ever want to chat Chesney, jacobpeetz82@gmail.com. I am going out this month to search and would love to work with someone creative.

  65. WiseOne says:

    Hello f, We’re Waiting….

  66. Chesney says:

    Mr. Fenn rarely will respond to an email, especially since he started doing “Weekly Words”. He always keeps everyone in the loop, so it is fair for all. Everyone have a safe weekend, and Best of Luck! It’s 9/9 today, somebody find her! 😀

  67. DelaYah says:

    You have to know the first 2 clues, otherwise, you’re in for a nice time in the forest, which is awesome.
    God’s handiwork is all over the rocky mountains, even filled with animals that you thought were extinct, so be careful and carry bear spray, and no need to go in the winter…
    You won’t know the blaze until you’ve driven and hiked many miles but even just a Hint of the blaze is going to make you happy… So get on out there! 😀
    Howdy F.

  68. DelaYah says:

    Why does this website block/moderate comments that aren’t offensive?

  69. DelaYah says:

    I came to share some friendly banter
    when I was stopped by a moderator
    wondering why I can’t freely express
    the words of gratitude and share the solace
    that I have become since the slam I found
    the one I have neutered and soon will unbound.
    All thanks to the Father – the One who has saved
    Even me who wasn’t worthy and greatly depraved.

  70. DelaYah says:

    That’s what I posted, but it’s showing up now.. the last time I posted it – it was waiting moderation.
    Anyway.. nice site.. Please don’t block me. LOL

  71. DelaYah says:

    Samson was given a last request by his Mighty One and he destroyed many.
    Interesting analogy. It seems to suit some people just perfectly.
    And it came to pass, when their hearts were merry, that they said, Call for Samson, And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left. And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the rulers, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.
    (Jdg 16:25-30)

  72. DelaYah says:

    And thanks for the comments JC1117. And let’s not let anything fall on us that’s heavy out there.. Be careful and enjoy that last bit of the summer if you can. 🙂

  73. JL says:

    *Don’t allow your journey to be at odds with reality. f
    This one has been stuck in my head for two weeks now.
    Fenns journey becomes our journey. Decipher the clues in the poem to find the location of the chest.

    Reality if the poem can’t lead you there then you are at odds with your journey.

    Starting to make some sense to me in a foggy kind of way. Speaking of Reality, I must say Thank You to all for your help, but I have reached a branch in the trail I must take alone. I think Forrest Fenn’s journey can only be accomplished alone any other way and you will be at odds with reality.

    • Chesney says:

      I believe that you are correct. Iff where I am at is the correct place, you have to go alone in there.

      • JL says:

        Well Chesney I hope there is enough room alone in there for everyone. Must have a significant spiritual view in f opinion if he thinks it is worthy of people looking at it 500 years from now. May he be right from my view.

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