Weekly Words from Forrest Fenn for September 30th, 2016

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Weekly Words from Forrest

Weekly words for September 30th, 2016 are as follows:

*You will like the top two treasures in the chest.f


Best of luck with The Thrill of the Chase and all that you seek! Treasure the Adventure!


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261 Responses

  1. Iron Will says:

    I’m one of the top two responders! πŸ™‚

  2. astree says:

    aS an added incentive, the skip 7 code, starting with the “U” is “UK PANS”.

    • astree says:

      And I guess the top two items of “the chest” are “C..E” (alphabetically), which looks like the CE5 / CES on the lid plate.

      Was just looking at the “take the chest and go in peace”
      In “peace” is the word “ace”. The front and back end acrostics of “go in peace” are PIG / GIP-ONE (ace). PIGEON means several things, one meaning is to pull a helpful card. PIG (for taking the chest?), GIP means to cheat, some others two, I think.

    • JL says:

      I believe two in the chest are bigger than any of the largest ever found in the UK but of course that doesn’t eliminate any of the others.

  3. nmc says:

    Excluding his row bracelet, weren’t the last two treasures he added to the chest the 5″ mirrors? Coupled with the “save your best smile” WW, the best treasure might be seeing your face when you find it.

    • nmc says:

      No edit function, ugh. I meant the best treasure might be seeing your face when you find the treasure and open the lid.

      • jonsey1 says:

        Did you mean the WW? What if he doesn’t open the lid? Talk about the tangent bus taking a strange turn…

        • Strawshadow says:

          He? He?

        • JL says:

          treasure hunting has many tangents, something elusive like the chest a person would be wise to just slip up on it and slip it in the burlap sack, much like snipe hunting. Then wait until daylight to see what’s in the bag and to make sure it’s in a secure location like a bank vault that not even a mouse could get out of. f that doesn’t work then you could just throw spirits to the wind, open the chest and watch it all return from the different directions it came from.

          Now lets define top, is it two items laying on top? Is it the top two in monetary value? Is it the top two in spiritual value?
          How about sentimental value, what is a price for that. Now take into consideration that maybe solving the poem is one top value and then the chest which confirms everything is the second value. It is a conundrum.

          If we speak of physical objects in the chest then I will say Bio=#1 and the frog=#2, but that is only information at hand the joker is the something special.

          • jonsey1 says:

            I agree. Just don’t know that I’d wait for daylight….or any light for that matter….to shine on the joker. Gosh knows what might come spilling out. Probably best to leave the wild card in the shade. One for the gipper, ya know?

          • Strawshadow says:

            You will like the top two, sounds like a pair or a replica to me. The best way to play the joker is in the dark and out of the deck. My poor sidekick will be sidelined for a few innings, until she’s up to par I’ll be bunting on base. Time to cap the driver and grab an iron, always a smart move if you can control the spin. My gut tells me all the treasures in the chest are likable.

      • Lia says:

        If, as Fenn says, a few people are in tight focus…meaning Eye, combined with circles, circular logic, omegas, ttotc “winking” statements, title “where the treasure lies” and forrest’s comments about raising the lid.
        Easy to arrive at: wink, wink…eye lid OR “I lied”. Ask yourself why for 6 years the only photos of the treasure included photo shopped coins and now he posts a “long forgotten” photo of chest with items that have been removed from the chest. Why? It only serves to question the validity of what’s actually hidden.

        Let’s examine “contentment” which ff states is what we need to find.
        Contentment means being at peace with what you have, rich or poor. Why does FF state that? It’s the antithesis of chasing gold or buried treasure.
        Break down “CON – Tent – ment” into segments as ff encourages we do with all word meanings.
        We have “a con”
        Tent = homes he’s owned, places he’s camped or pitched a tent.
        The poem does solve to past homes he’s owned in Montana, Wyoming, and New Mexico and his camping spots disclosed which have been searched. The homes are all “Chet’s” or private properties now owned by ff or others. “B” in HOD is equivalent to “home”. There are 11 B’s in the poem which are all forms of brown homes ir brown Rock monuments important to Forrest, including the Fenn cache location, BBCFTW, his favorite fishing home on the Madison and another on the Gallatin – now all private property of others.

        Scan GE for TAOS. Zoom way out and you’ll see one of the topigraphical “chests” he refers to. looks like a mans “staked” chest. There are several more key visual topographical “chests” the poem leads to. Ff said, “It’s all visual” his mind stays at 13, and he’s a pilot. Because his poem craftily mentions chest, title, and treasure he left wide open latitude for actual meaning. Another fun GE image is that of a treasure chest with a pirate boot lid – right at Hebgen Lake. It contains a hen and rolled title if you scan the correct altitude (quite the chest!). Montana is MT or empty. His treasure in Montana consists if memories and favorite fishing/camping places he pitched his tent.

        I dont intend to explain or defend my observations. They are my opinions and I’ve sent Forrest copyrighted, privately shared maps of his B’s/homes of brown. He knows not to disclose my maps or methodology without my permission.
        Do your own research, form your own opinions regarding what ttotc treasure actually means.

    • Iron Will says:

      I couldn’t agree more, even though I’m pretty sure what one of them is.

    • Ramona says:

      Makes sense to me nmc. If he placed the mirrors face up then the last thing he would have seen as he closed the lid was a reflection of himself. And the first thing the finder will see when they open the lid is a reflection of themselves. Kind of like a ceremony of “I give you title to the gold”. Just one way of looking at it. I never assume my interpretations are correct.

  4. Milan says:

    I really wish we could get Jenny to tell us which of these weekly words are recent and which are from the “batch” of weekly words provided last year.

  5. astree says:


    The top two items in the chest then (when the picture was taken), or now.

    “The two round objects in the center are 300 year-old gold and silver hunting case minute repeater watches. They came out, as did the large gems.”

  6. 23kachinas says:


  7. DPT says:

    Mirrors. Reflection. Time

    One of the definitions of a mirror is ” calm waters as reflective surfaces”. Such as when flowing waters halt.

    These pre-Columbian mirrors seem to be very important.

    Did you also know that the magpie is one of the smartest birds because they can see their image in a mirror. Mirror Image!

  8. jonsey1 says:

    Where’s E.C. Waters? Lmao. Is it irrational to think of the Cardinal “teaching” oridinality? I mean originality. dang spell check. Its freaking Micky Mantle every time. Arg.
    WHERES WHITEY?!?!???

    • Chesney says:

      Did you find Indulgence yet Jamie? πŸ™‚ You never did answer me as to if you would marry me if I found her! You are so coy! πŸ˜€

    • E.C. Waters says:

      @jonsey1 – I’m here. I’m just ponderosa-ing in my brown study reverie and deep thinking. What would be the top two treasures? The dragon bracelet and the big-arse gold nugget? Or… Might they be unnamed, as I speculate, copies of the bootlegged Alpha Omega tapes or 8-tracks by The Beatles?

      • jonsey1 says:

        Are you implying Hot Hitz and Kold Kuts? Sounds like a leftover fried Bologna horseradish sandwich to me….but then again if they Age like Twinkies I see no problem with a little snack in the chest. Tuning in the whole way there could work up quite an appetite. I tried to ask Brown myself….but everyone in Texas is wearing big intimidating hats.

        Chesney- sure, Y not!

        • Chesney says:

          When Mr. Fenn announces me as the finder on the “Today Show”, can Ihold you to it? πŸ˜€

        • E.C. Waters says:

          @jonesy1 – I’m suggesting “title to the gold” is Alpha Omega, but also the shape of the Omega Omega (or maybe alpha omega if I’m plotting it incorrectly) walking path one follows to get to the chest. Additionally, there seem to me to be many external connections hinted along the way, like Jackie Onassis Reservoir in Central Park (brandy bottle left behind), Imagine Memorial (Imagination is more important…), the favored-but-creepy Catcher In the Rye novel mentioned in Important Literature was also the book Mark David Chapman was reading when he was arrested for shooting John Lennon, “all you need is the poem” vs. “all you need is love”, and many other lyrical coincidences.

          It has been argued to death in multiple forums how the poem should stand on its own, but I’m still convinced there is a ton of satellite info needed in order to understand the poem. Otherwise, we’re left with just a brute force hunt on our hands, and that doesn’t look to me like a deep thinker is needed.

          And yes, I am following along on all of your math humor and Fennian undertones. lol

          • jonsey1 says:

            I smell what you’re cooking E.C. just making a Brown joke on the murdered producer of the Beatles. And I totally agree on the path one takes being an Alpha and Omega….or as many call it a straight forward line. From the underdog to the top. The only deep thinking I believe is required is figuring out where to begin. Probably doesn’t matter if you’re heading to the top and you’ve got a big hat.

            • jonsey1 says:

              ….I like to Imogene it’s mine like that at least, but I’m prone to overlooking details in favor of driving around and listening to the radio without my hat on. Odds are ill have fun! Lol

            • E.C. Waters says:

              @jonesy1 – Then maybe we are thinking along the same lines. Here’s my plotted map that takes me consecutively through the poem clues, where one can see better from a bird’s-eye view the path literally taking the shape of a double omega. That was a surprise to me.


              The pin is the area centroid of the (formerly) public park, also known as “Strawberry Fields” in Colorado Springs. The park is just outside of Seven Falls. Oh what a joke that might be if all of this talk of Captain Kidd piracy, and bootlegging with The Great Gatsby, and bootlegged paintings sold by Fenn was somehow linked to the pirated (but then legal) Alpha Omega albums, the motivation behind the creation of new music piracy laws and the release of the Red and Blue Albums. “… pillowed down and scented in” might instead be “pillow, crown and scepter”, the logo of the company who pirated Alpha Omega. Alan Seeger said “pillowed in silk and scented down”. Why would Fenn scramble it up a bit if not to message a nuance? He knows how to google.

              But all of this is just me rambling about nonsense that might be in the box.

          • C.M.R. says:

            I wonder if Fenn knew all along,
            It will be when the birds start their song.

        • Strawshadow says:

          You two are tricky, yes and no at the same time.

  9. LMN says:

    The “top two treasures in the chest” (IMHO) will prove to be:
    #1 The Fenn Autobiography
    #2 A still Undisclosed Gift that will only be revealed after lifting the lid.
    What a story and dramatic conclusion to #1!

  10. Chesney says:

    Thank you Mr. Fenn and Ms. Kile for all of the Weekly Words and your efforts. When I look in my passenger side mirror, on the bottom it says “Objects in mirror are closer than they appear”!

  11. Strawshadow says:

    Thanks Jenny and Mr. Fenn,
    It’s in the black, love and peace, top two too!

  12. Buckeye Bob says:

    Jenny, Dal’s recent Scrapbook 158 was also about items, as noted above.
    Is there any reason other than random chance for this to be the “Weekly Words”?
    Are you taking them in order so that Forrest would know this one was coming next?

    The items listed in that Scrapbook post over at Dal’s site include the mirrors, which Forrest did not mention in his book “The Thrill Of The Chase.”
    I wonder about that. But I do agree there’s some significance to them.
    I’ve suspected for quite a while that Forrest “releases” new info in the form of clues, based on someone getting something right. Sort of leading us searchers with breadcrumbs.
    (Those days might be done now, as this timing is right at the end of his active participation.)

    • Chesney says:

      Buckeye Bob,
      I could be “way off base here”, but I believe someone is very close…. that is why Mr. Fenn has made himself a “bystander”.

      • Buckeye Bob says:

        Chesney, that could be but I think the effort to read all the forum posts and all just got to be too much for his good health.
        But in keeping with both our thoughts, they may go together in that someone (or seekers as a whole) have gotten enough things right that Forrest is saying “now I’m done.”

  13. Ramona says:

    Thank you Jenny and Forrest. You always keep us thinking. =)

  14. JDA says:

    Two thoughts that I posted over on Dal’s site. #1: How could you tell which were the top two items unless Forrest placed each individual piece in a Zip Lock bag? #2: I think that one item is the one that he does not want to talk about, but that “she” will like. and Item #2, I think is the first “Arrowpoint” that he found when he was nine.

    If the “Arrowpoint” is there, and I am lucky enough to find the treasure Sunday, I will offer it back to Forrest along with the silver bracelet. JDA

    • Chesney says:

      What state do you believe it is in, if you don’t mind me asking?

    • pdenver says:

      Hello JDA. If I’m not mistaken, you feel the chest is in water. If I remember correctly, water will deteriorate the Ziploc bags after time, then disposing the item(s) to the water. May or may not be a factor.

      It is interesting to know what the top two treasures are. I have ideas, but not sure. Nothing like being teased on a Friday morning. πŸ™‚

      • pdenver says:

        Thank you Jenny and Mr. Fenn for this week’s “Weekly Words.” I greatly appreciate it. I always look forward to them with a smile. πŸ™‚

    • Buckeye Bob says:

      JDA, I’ve come to think that the mysterious item that “she will like” is a nickel.
      Remember the story of the sweet old lady who broke two pies so young Forrest could afford a pie? And Forrest said that if he could find her grave he’d push a nickel under her grave marker and that he sensed she was smiling down at him.
      I think Forrest is “paying it forward” with this treasure, and included this token in her honor.
      I call it “The Pie Baker’s Nickel”, if it really exists that is. It’s there in spirit, at any rate.

  15. IN1564 says:

    I also thank you Jenny and Forrest. I’m both religious and spiritual, and I enjoy learning the cultures of different religions and have respect for them. So, I have a tendency to look/learn there first. Perhaps we need to do two things: “Be doers of the word, and not hearers only. Otherwise, you are deceiving yourselves.” This could also relate to F.F.’s desire for us to get boots on the ground. The preposition, in (or within), the chest could be a way of relating to unification of the heart (chest) and perhaps unite at a much higher level of meaning?? The mystery revealed–could it be within a perfect circle, measured as 3.1 or pi? A round mirror?? A round pond??

    The opposite side of within could be without (or without hue). The three types of color in equal amounts results in the perception of white (representing light)?? If pi is 3 (with a lot of random numbers behind it with equal frequency and never ending), then I can see the circle as white (reflected light). This color is meaningful in a wide range of religions and cultures. To everything there is a season including snow and clouds. A water face reflects face and the heart of us reflects us. Just based on reading about him, I believe FF has a big heart that could be seen in his reflection.

    Anyway, this is how I choose to see one angle of the maestro. He makes us think in different ways, and I enjoy reading everyone’s different viewpoints.

  16. DelaYah says:

    Hello everyone!

    Forrest Fenn’s Hidden Treasure!
    Man can you imagine the pleasure?
    of walking along, whistling a song
    and tripping on the right to all wrong

    Where to begin is the key
    Forrest said “listen to me”
    when you find the blaze first
    where you are is nicht wurst

    Enjoy Your adventure! and be careful out there!

  17. HeadedDown says:

    “the Tairona fetish necklace, and my revered turquoise row bracelet. Then I closed the lid, and that was that. ” last 2 he added. So on top? Who is you?

  18. Joe Sparrow says:

    Whatever they are, “the top two treasures” are worth 4T thousand dollars are more. πŸ™‚

  19. decall says:

    I’m surprised people are so stubborn about the omegas. Two round gold mirrors possibly circle dot style. Watches… circle dot. Nose rings, circle dot. Bracelet, circle dot. The poem mirrors, so do the omegas. Halt mirrors cease. Two frogs…. this is a box full of symbolism.

    • Buckeye Bob says:

      Of course it is.
      “Get back in the box.”
      “The key word is CONTENTment.” And happiness is only one of the two aspects of that wordage.
      Two Omegas and double meanings.

      • decall says:

        Bob, what’s your opinion about frogs pointing to the salamander? OR the symbolism in general?

        • Chesney says:

          Just a thought, but what if the American Bullfrog was an “invasive species”,where the chest is?

        • Buckeye Bob says:

          Decall, I think it would be wrong to pass judgement on any idea that would fit within Forrest’s guidelines. I’m not real familiar with the salamander idea, but I don’t recall anything that told me “that can’t be right.” It’s not in my present solve, but my solve could be wrong. And if it proves out to be wrong then I’d certainly start looking at new ideas (to me).
          So salamanders could be right, and no one will know one way or another until the treasure is found.

          Overall, on the idea of the contents of the bronze box called “Indulgence”, remember the difference between “clues” and “hints”. The clues are the 9 clues in the poem that lead to Indulgence. Everything else, no matter what we call them (clues, hints, whatever), are called “hints” by Forrest and they are surely verifications and nudges that act as aids to the 9 clues.
          At least, that’s my thinking.

  20. pdenver says:

    Hello Joe Sparrow. Interesting thought. With the science we have today, it can prove where we came from with a swab of the cheek, blood drawn, etc.. It would be interesting to find where his “future” lineage will be. Hope his lineage continues for an extremely long time.

    • Joe Sparrow says:


      Forrest putting hairs in the chest reminded me of that movie A. I, (Artifical Intelligence) where the
      boy robot is frozen under the sea for thousands of years. In a distant future robot earth he is defrosted,
      and the robots of that time period tell him they can bring back someone he knew that was human, but
      only for 24 hours. A robot Teddy Bear has saved some of the hair from the robot boys human “mom”
      from the past. The robots use this hair to to clone the “mom” for one full day. It was a sad movie–
      but actually quite touching.

      Maybe one day science will be so advanced that they can clone Forrest in a thousand years and he
      can finally reveal where the chest is buried. Unfotunately, they would not be able to clone the chest. πŸ™‚

      • pdenver says:

        Hello Joe Sparrow. It does sound like a sad movie. In regards to cloning, who knows. There is an older gentleman who has been kept frozen in a deep freeze for many years in Nederland, CO for such reasoning as you have given. Science has already cloned animals and they can grow skin, etc.. Human beings brought back to life? I actually wonder if he would like to be. His DNA cells certainly would be interesting to see under a microscope.

        • pdenver says:

          Gosh, here we’re enjoying the Thrill of the Chase and now I want to see his DNA under microscope. Yes, he deserves privacy, but I think everyone knows what I mean.

  21. Point Foot says:

    Thank you Forrest and Jenny. It is always a pleasure to see these words each Friday. I find myself looking forward to the profound and often insightful words written within. That is quite an eyeful of the chest too over on Dal’s site! Thank you astree for the link. If I am the finder I imagine I will have a lot to think about after raising the lid and seeing what is inside. I have one more trip planned this season. Maybe I will come across a bullfrog on my quest. It is not this weekend but soon. Blessings to all and may all our eyes be opened on our journeys.

  22. JDA says:


    Was this post one of those off of the stack? Thanks for posting them.

  23. HeadedDown says:

    Mr. Fenn just posted that scrapbook that features a picture of his treasure arranged in the treasure chest on top of his kitchen table. It’s called “An Early Arrangement”.

    So he made 2 trips. One with the tc and the other with his treasure. And he apparently had the idea that he would be arranging the treasure in the tc to match (his photo of, idk) “The Final Arrangement”? And because he took the step to plan the arrangement of his treasure he knows the top 2 treasures.

    This brings back the picture of his silverware drawer. Is he really that organized? So precisely particular to the last detail to plan an arrangement? Sorry if this makes no sense but I had to get it out.

    • Joe Sparrow says:

      Yes— and if you remember those two photos of the messy drawer and neat drawer both contained two
      shot glasses. OK—so we have two watches, two mirrors and two shot glasses. It sounds like someone
      wants to watch themselves, and time themselves, while they are getting buzzed. πŸ™‚

      • JL says:

        Times two or twice?

      • HeadedDown says:

        Maybe. But I’m pretty sure Mr. Fenn doesn’t drink. But I do :). Yet, I count beers, timing is just that. Relative to something else. There are just so many beers. If you catch my drift. “Mirrors” no thanks cuz it’s Friday and I ain’t shaving till Sunday night/Monday morning. πŸ™‚ as above is below? 2 sides to every story? What’s the 2? The double? The one and then, hey you, #2. I lost my shoes in that ordeal :).

  24. Joe Sparrow says:

    “The vaquero pulled out a roll of greenbacks and began peeling off tens and twenties” –The Sonora Noose

  25. squat cobbler says:

    Jenny, I hope you see this. I have a question for you. You previously said that Mr. Fenn gave you a bunch of weekly words in advance. Did Mr Fenn specify the order in which you release the weekly words, or do you choose the order?

  26. HeadedDown says:

    JL. I can’t reply to ur comment directly. I don’t know why. But I am just a lowly designer. No pension. Lol. Just a 401k. The difference between a Federal employee and a Private sector employee I guess. They win. Every time. The winners that is. πŸ™‚ so male or female? U?

  27. HeadedDown says:

    Nope! Sounds like a guy who is confused. Have a goodnight. Peace be with you. Thank God you’re in America. God bless the USA. Any other country you may be exterminated. Peace and love. πŸ™‚

  28. HeadedDown says:

    Lol. Not Ricky. He has some good ideas. Too funny.

  29. HeadedDown says:

    What you mean? Repeating history? You pretend b4?

  30. JL says:

    So you don’t deny you are Ricky………..goodnight Ricky I got no more time for your lies

    • HeadedDown says:

      I’m not Ricky. Ask Jenny. She gets ips. We all one step behind. Go figure. But thanks.

      • HeadedDown says:

        I got but 2 maybe 2 ips. I miss Ricky 2. Who else posts fighter pilots doing sh@t we don’t dare and cant explain. πŸ™‚

        It takes a heart that gots years till it’s drained. πŸ™‚

  31. HeadedDown says:

    So it’s clear. I’m not Ricky. Miss you btw on chasechat. WHole heartedly i am not ricky. Bruce. JL. Its ok. America. You are free. To be yourself. Awkward. Yes. But it’s the future. πŸ™

  32. joey nelson says:

    Does anyone else see the gentleman in the top hat and vest on The map? that looks like a fish but walks like a man and if you do compare his face to the jesus mask In the chest it looks the same to me and if he’s a gentleman that looks like a fish wouldn’t his name be Mr.Fenn?just asking.Hint he’s the entire map everything.Now who wants to know where the gold is?meet me on the Captains Bridge at sun down and don’t be late

  33. joey nelson says:


  34. joey nelson says:


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  36. decall says:

    “top two treasures”
    repeating “t” seems deliberate…
    I was wondering where we see 3 t’s
    red tea, black tea, green tea maybe?

    • IN1564 says:

      Hi Decall,

      I also see TwoTreasures = Rosewater (from there I google brain stormed these words):
      Rose, Autumn crocus, lilac autumn crocus, sunset, “Oh that I were as I was in the day of my youth”, Job 33:25, religion lived keeps the heart young, sphere of the soul, Goeth’s Faust, magnum opus, great work of German literature, (gather together Christian, medieval, Roman, and eastern poetry, philosophy, and literature), assemblage of creatures, charteuse, Indus, Indigo, Heifer, peacock, eye, etc. I think I’m going to go back and read “The Mysterious Light of Rembrandt’s Faust” that was posted on this site.

      • Point Foot says:

        What a particularly beautiful painting. Thank you for sharing that. For me the stories behind the art can be truly wonderful and this one in particular draws me in.

      • Mike Forni says:

        I thought Faust might be connected to the Chase but could not make a connection. Good luck!

  37. Dampened Myth says:

    There be strange talk on the forums. Who is really who? When do we see the man behind the curtain? One day it would be nice to know that. Maybe that day will come sooner than we think?

    Blessings to those watching, to those seeking and to those enlightened ones.

  38. Point Foot says:

    Hi Dampened Myth. I concur in your thinking.

    As a watcher who has become a seeker I’d like to add my wish for all watchers to become seekers and all seekers to become enlightened. In the end that would make me put on my best smile.

  39. BW says:

    What is the difference between top two and two top? This reminds me of Mr. Fenn’s comment in TTOTC about two miles square and two square miles.

    • Mike Forni says:

      I thought the same thing.. I read this message and thought of Topps (baseball cards). Just a thought..

      • Washaufizzi says:

        Like a Batter at the Plate? Anyone know who played baseball there? Was it the same guy that was in the ring? I got some digging to do before this thing blows up on me.

  40. Dampened Myth says:

    “A picture is worth a thousand words.” And what a beautiful picture it is.

  41. JL says:

    Can there be something hidden between the lid and the olive wood that we cannot see?

    • pdenver says:

      Hello JL. I believe anything is possible, yet, I don’t think there is with this situation. Somehow I feel the layer would easily fall out of its original position. Once more, I may be wrong.

  42. SL says:

    Lift the lid,
    Look behind/underneath it…(In the Wood).


    • JL says:

      You always seem to have some good Ideas SL, are you an active searcher or a dabbler like myself?

    • pdenver says:

      You’ve got me thinking again, SL. πŸ™‚

      • pdenver says:

        Gosh, I wish I could find this chest to see if it’s possible. πŸ™‚ I’m trying to look at the studs which may have been used to put the lining in place. I would hate to think removing the wood lining would destroy the beauty of this chest or the history for which it holds.

  43. joey nelson says:

    TOP 2 IS GOD AND JESUS wake up people.

    • JL says:

      Yes you are correct, that be the old riches. The recently released picture is of the new, unless of course F only hid one treasure in his poem. Then disregard anything I have said.

  44. Stubber says:

    Item 1 is a gold item that will make you laugh, it is related to the first blaze you will see when BOTG
    Item 2 is title to the property that has the chest

    Wish I could say more, but i can’t.

  45. joey nelson says:


    • pdenver says:

      That’s the church I wanted to visit last year, but couldn’t remember the name! Thank you, joey nelson! I wanted to see this beautiful staircase for myself. Ever since I was a little girl, I’ve always dreamed of owning a home with one. Unfortunately, it never happened, but it’s still nice to dream. πŸ™‚

      • joey nelson says:

        Well unless you can find a Spanish ship on the rio grande that has 1 chances aren’t good you will see another 1.its very beautiful and I just hope and pray I can walk up it one day.

        • JL says:

          That is a great article. Seeing the Loretto Chapel in person just got moved to the head of my bucket list …..maybe I should save it for last.

          • pdenver says:

            Why save it for last? Oh, you have my head spinning again, JL. Move to the head of your bucket list, yet save it for last. πŸ™‚

        • pdenver says:

          Hello joey nelson. I do hope to see it. I’ll have to figure out where it’s located first. I’ve only been to Santa Fe once. The question I do have is, can someone climb the staircase? I truly don’t know the answer.

          • joey nelson says:

            That was my full intentions to climb the staircase until I arrived and my thoughts changed.This could be the staircase to heaven.Do I really want to go half way up and turn around?No I don’t so without a back up plan in place.i found myself praying for a safe trip home.good luck

  46. DelaYah says:

    One thing that Forrest has said that stuck in my mind was he said: If a person can just “think” they can find the chest. But you have to “think” and analyze.

    I wrote this poem while I was thinking about the quest, and although it’s not directly related to the search, this poem has a dual meaning, if you get it, you have been thinking! πŸ™‚

    thinking man

    I remember As a young man there was a man who kept thinking
    with his fist on his chin and he was never caught drinking
    shamefacedness surrounding him while his eyes ever gazing
    down to the ground as if the plan he contorts is amazing

    Everyone eagerly expecting him to the whole story explicate
    While we all wait it’s clear he is firmly helplessly indurate
    Thinketh any yet what this man is about to say
    Or is this just another day where we all walk away

    Will someone be bold and ask of his plan
    Has he at all gestured or spoke, this man
    Will it be clear if he is a wise man
    Will he make a sound if hit with a pan

    As I was a while thinking
    My thoughts were ammassing
    The stick I had was a-plinking
    Making a sound like a tinkling

    This man is not going to answer
    His brain couldn’t obtain to a financer
    He is coarse and made of hard matter
    Hit him with a sledge he will not splatter

    So I thought I might see
    If any pondered like me
    Give the old man a push
    Or smack him on his tush
    Perhaps tomorrow, we will see

  47. Buckeye Bob says:

    I like it, DelaYah.
    It brings to mind much, but how can I be sure it’s the same “much” as you? So goes all riddles.
    But there’s a lot to like in that.

  48. DelaYah says:

    The thinking man is the author who lives in the area. He’s not aware the people that come each day are tourists and he believes he is the only one that knows it’s a statue and doesn’t have the heart to tell anyone else, just yet. πŸ™‚

  49. DelaYah says:

    Buckeye Bob & JL. lol, nice responses! πŸ™‚ Have a great day and pray for motivation, for me too.

  50. Chesney says:

    What if someone were close and foubd the chest soon? What would your reaction consist of. Would you be jealous or envious of the finder?

  51. JL says:


  52. Stonerolledaway says:

    What if, all this time, Forrest has been trying to tell us that, ultimately, “treasures in heaven” are far more important that “treasures on earth.” After all, when you die, you can’t take the gold and jewels with you. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

  53. ace 340 says:

    My daughter upon seeing the vast and interesting things in Yellowstone opened her mind to the possibilities the world may have to offer when she said.” After all this, there’s more”.
    I found some stories you all might like.

  54. Snider says:

    If you find the chest many of your worries will go away with the sunset.

    You will like the top two treasures in the chest.

    I personally think he is trying to tell us that the title to the gold is a real thing.
    And not just a line in the poem.
    This is just my two cents.
    It is obvious that indulgence will have to spend one more winter in the woods.
    I pray that there will be no body searching through the wintertime. Although the chances of this I know will be slim.
    Forrest and his family have suffered enough. Let’s show him respect, and give him and his family a well needed break.

  55. DelaYah says:

    Snider, wouldn’t it be awesome if he trades the pueblo land or that 43 carat diamond he has for the chest? Afterall, the idea is to get the chest into the smithsonian and that diamond is worth-less since the hope is already in there. Or if it would be the land he can give someone that same thrill he has had his life by digging things up out there.
    Just pondering…

    • JL says:

      Usually, you don’t start horse trading until somebody has a horse. Now I have heard 42 mentioned several times but never talking about carrots. Horses like carrots, if you eat that many carrots u probably would have no need for a flashlight. It is simply amazing all the tangents this chase follows. I am not a very good horse trader, I start out with a thoroughbred and before the day is done all I have is a burro. I think burro’s like carrots too.

    • Snider says:

      Yes that would be great.
      At this point, I would just simply give the chest, and it’s contents back to him. Shake his hand and say thank you.
      Everyone at HOD is making a “BIG DEAL” with everything in the chest.
      When all I got out of this was, patiently waiting, in the mountains.
      The LOVE of money is the root of all evel.
      There are far better things in life to love, other than money!!!!!!!!!

  56. Onuat says:

    I wonder who the top two searchers in the chase are. πŸ˜€

  57. 5-leaf blaze says:

    With this, and as far as I feel I’ve come in this search, I feel that time is of the essence. Very good hint, thank you.

  58. JL says:

    ” I feel that time is of the essence” I like incense it puts me in a meditative mood that time cannot populate urgency.

    • JC1117 says:

      You get that feeling, too, JL?

      Every now and then that feeling hits me like a ton of lead.


      Every time I see that quote somewhere, my cynical alter-ego wants to get out a permanent marker and finish the quote…properly…

      “Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away…(permanent marker)…especially that LAST one. It’s a doozy.” :/


      • JC1117 says:

        Oops. Looks like you’ll have to type the “….jpg” (four dots) at the end of the first link to make it work.

      • JL says:

        Would you prefer to be a passenger or the chauffeur, it is quite a ride!

        • C.M.R. says:

          Passenger, but how is your driving?

          • JL says:

            I do ok, no tickets, like to speed if the opportunity presents its self and don’t wear my seat belt till I get up past 80. My sense of direction is 180 out so I am always in need of a good co-pilot, are you interested?

            • C.M.R. says:

              Always up for a road trip, always up for an adventure. A road trip adventure sounds like fun. I always wear a seat belt though.

            • Ellen says:

              Sounds like a fun trip…co-pilots and all!
              But…for JC1117…Beach Boy’s “t-bird” from the “Sounds of Summer”? Probably doesn’t do well in ice and snow!
              Love that song…
              A lotta guys try to catch her…but she leads them on a wild goose chase now…
              Seems she forgot all about the library…you drive like an ace now…
              Well you knew all along…that your dad was getting wise to you now…
              And since he took your set of keys…But you can come along with me…
              ‘Cause we gotta lot of things to do now…

              Thanks…FUN FUN FUN…great memories growing up in the Sixties near the beach…
              Don’t forget that other song…”Little Deuce Coupe”

              • pdenver says:

                I love it, Ellen! I have that exact CD, along with others, sitting right next to me on the computer table. Most times I listen to music while trying to figure out the poem. Other times, I play the music so I can dance and unwind myself after reading the poem. πŸ˜‰

                • ROLL TIDE says:

                  pdenver ,
                  I like to listen to this fellow when I’m out doing botg.
                  Robert Simon :
                  1) To The Gypsies
                  2) Luna Roja
                  3) Porcelain Rose
                  I actually met this guy in downtown Disneyland last year. He was setting next to a tree playing guitar. I sat and listened to him for awhile, then bought all of his CD’s.
                  Treasure-hunting music at it’s finest. I think it’s beautiful.
                  Hope you enjoy.

                • pdenver says:

                  Hello ROLL TIDE. I couldn’t find the exact songs to Robert Simon on YouTube, but found this sampler:


                  He’s extremely good. The music is beautiful. Thank you so much for introducing me to him. I could just float away listening to him play. I can understand why you bought all of his CD’s.

                • pdenver says:

                  ROLL TIDE, I should have mentioned the artists that sit on my computer desk to you. I’ve started listening to other artists on YouTube, too. The CD’s/artist:

                  Shakira…”Greatest Hits”
                  Taylor Swift…Burnt CD I bought from eBay
                  Gloria Estefan…”Greatest Hits”
                  Neil Diamond…”The Essential”
                  Garth Brooks…”Double Live”
                  The Beach Boys…”Sounds of Summer”
                  “Now That’s What I Call Classic Rock Hits”
                  “Casey Kasem Presents America’s Top Ten Hits” (1970’s)
                  “Catch My Drift: Soft Rock ’70’s”
                  “The New York Pops Magical Melodies From Great Musicals”

                  I truly enjoy all kinds of music. It makes one’s soul drift away and leave the worries behind.

                • pdenver says:

                  Taylor Swift CD…eBay listing said it was new, so I bought it. Had no idea the seller meant “newly burnt”. I enjoy all the songs on it. πŸ™‚

            • Andrew Jef says:

              JL, are you also too tough to carry bear spray in bear country?

              • JL says:

                I dont know what you are getting at, I have never owned any bear spray nor do I ever plan on owning any, call it what you want.

          • JL says:

            Are you one of those types that can make it to work on your own or do I need to pick you up?

            • C.M.R. says:

              I can meet you in the middle…. Say Salt Lake City.

            • C.M.R. says:

              I can meet you in the middle. Maybe, Salt Lake City.

              • JL says:

                ok, i can do that. If I don t end up in Kansas City Kansas.

              • JL says:

                Well that is a Delima, cuz I hafta go north for some unfinished bizness first.

                • C.M.R. says:

                  We can go North first, finish your business, then we just have to vote S or Disneyland.

                • C.M.R. says:

                  Khaki pants and shirt, brown leather Jacket and hat, carrying a bull whip. You can’t miss me.

                • JC1117 says:

                  Hello C.M.R. and JL.

                  If I’m listening correctly…it seems you two are planning quite the adventure. You might get your adventure started on the right foot if you actually meet somewhere in Kansas. That way things will REALLY kick into high gear once you start driving and look around and realize you’re not in Kansas, anymore.


                  Although, You’re both certainly welcome here in Salt Lake City. I’ll gladly roll out the red carpet for you and/or meet you for lunch. On second thought…I don’t think I have a red carpet…but I’m pretty sure I have a blue one.

                  I’m kinda confused, though. You said you might go “N S E or Disneyland” and THEN go looking for a Blase? That’s an interesting plan of attack. I wish you luck with that. But, hey, if you end up at Disneyland then you should go on the Tower of Terror ride. That is…if you’re brave enough to stay at The Hollywood Tower Hotel. The Tower of Terror is slated for demolition in January 2017 to make room for a MARVEL comic-themed UNIVERSE! I can’t wait to GAZE on that. πŸ™‚


                  Whatever you do…have fun. Bring a jacket. It doesn’t have to be a straight one. If you’re a Seahawks fan go ahead and wear a rainbow jacket for all I care. Just enjoy the adventure.


                • C.M.R. says:

                  See you on Sunday JC, can we borrow your car?

                • JL says:

                  Sure I could cuz now you look like me, im startin to think our just funnin me.

                • C.M.R. says:

                  If we can’t borrow JC’s car at least he could tell us, are we looking for double omegas, a coffin, a pillar, something that winks, rock or other formation, (eagle poop), horse face, or a carving in a tree? Otherwise I think I will need another sandwich.

                • JC1117 says:

                  Well…I can’t let you just take my car…unless you leave some collateral of equal value. 500 bucks oughta cover it.

                  I’m happy to drive if you’d like. Just keep me caffeinated…as a favor…and for your own safety.


                  I still remember that one. That was a close call. Whew! I think I was distracted reading the latest blog post.

                  And, C.M.R., I’m not totally sure…but I think you’re onto something with the double omegas…and something that winks.

                  And that sandwich sounds REALLY good right about now.

                • JC1117 says:

                  And you know what would be really good with that sandwich?

                  Pecan sandies cookies! I love ’em.

                  I like to make up a batch for everyone at Halloween…but for a little fun I put real sand in a few of them.

                  Nobody knows for sure if they’re in for a trick or a treat!

                  You should see the look on their faces when they get a REAL pecan sandie. Priceless! LOL!

                  This website has a nice recipe.


                  These as oned mom dot com? I don’t get it.

              • JL says:

                Looks like I have to take the back seat to JC1117, if that’s the case I want some pecan pie warm with vanilla bean ice cream 20 miles north of wwh at the pavilion on the river. CMR is buying, i’ll pick up the coffee for JC. Should be an interesting trip with you characters.

                • C.M.R. says:

                  JL, if you know for sure where WWH I will bring the title to the poem, I know that for sure. You still have to pick me up in SLC first, I wouldn’t find the pavilion.

                • JC1117 says:

                  Hello, JL. Nobody takes a back seat to ol’ JC. You’ll be riding shotgun next to CMR. Besides, we’ll need all the people riding shotgun that we can get. Don’t ask me why. (chuckle, chuckle…snort) Nothing sinister, mind you. Well…not us, anyway. :/

                  We’ll be driving down the highway…eating sandwiches…and pecan sandies…and singing along with The Beach Boys…

                  “…and we had FUN! FUN! FUN! ’til her daddy took the shotgun awaaaaaaay…
                  …FUN! FUN! FUN! ’til her daddy took the shotgun awaaaaaaay…”

                  Now THAT’S road-trippin’ you’ll never forget. πŸ™‚

                  (I know what you’re thinkin’…”Did he fire six shots? Or only five?”
                  …oops, I mean…you’re thinking…”No more caffeine for JC. He has clearly had enough.)

                • pdenver says:

                  Now, JC1117. What kind of shotgun did her daddy own that can get 6 shots out of? I’m sure you know the max is three. πŸ™‚

                • pdenver says:

                  Hope your tank is full and you have a lead foot. πŸ˜‰

                • JL says:

                  pdenver, remove the plug and you can get 2 more, then you can buy an extended tube for 7 rounds on a remington 870 pump. one of the mot effective defensive weapon at a very reasonable price. The bigger question is who’s daddy and from whom? I think JC is implying once you take the shotgun effect away it is no longer fun and games. It is a saying of mine when I am not sure where to start, I apply the shotgun effect. I feel like maybe someone is testing my memory, maybe they think they have messed with my mind too much.

                • pdenver says:

                  Hello JL. I’ve never heard of an extended tube. Hmmm. I’ll have to check this out. When you remove the plug, you end up with three. I’ll have to ask my fellas. They know more about this stuff than I do. Definitely have to have fun with all of this, JL. I believe you’re a smart person to figure out the latter.

                • JL says:

                  Smart or not what does it matter? A person just takes what they are given and run with it, stretch the boundaries until something gives. If it breaks you fix it or know how to improve it. Much like the backward bicycle, if you keep turning right you will eventually end up left. I can fix a car, remodel a house be an electrician. plumber. welder, roofer or framer, driller, company hand or consultant. There’s no shame in any job and getting up and putting on the same hat every day is boring. In the end, there is always someone smarter and they are arrogant enough to let you know.

                • JC1117 says:

                  Hello, All.

                  With an XRAIL you can ghost load a shotgun with 27 rounds (26+1)…and you don’t even have to pump it. It’s like having 9 people riding shotgun a few years back.


                  How do you like your clay pigeon? Well done? πŸ™‚

                • pdenver says:

                  Oh my gosh, JC1117! I can’t wait to show my fellas this video! They’re going to love it! Thank you for providing the link. πŸ™‚

                • pdenver says:

                  Hello JL. For the most part, I understand what you are saying and agree with you.

              • JL says:

                I would be more than happy to pick you up in SLC if you are who I think you are, gonna need that pic you see. As far as title to the poem, I have that, it is the title to the gold I seek.

                • C.M.R. says:

                  If you think I’m anybody other than nobody then somebody would be wrong.

                • JL says:

                  Everybody is nobody and nobody is sumbody and somebody and nobody can be anybody. It was a nice trip while it lasted and you should find your way to the papilio down by the fiume, you will be illuminare much like the blase you seek. Il tutto in buon divertimento

  59. IN1564 says:

    Hi all, the quote of the week looks like a Mesopotamian Clay Ball?? Never heard of it until now. Nonetheless, a very interesting and recent discovery.

    After looking at some pictures of jesters, I ended up reading an analysis of Shakespeare’s King Lear–why?? I really don’t know how I ended up there.

    • Buckeye Bob says:

      Oh yeah, IN1564. In early times they also used clay envelopes for trade, where the caravaneer delivered what was represented with the token housed within and matched with stamps on the envelope’s outside before it was fired.
      Pretty cool stuff.

  60. Inohury says:

    I think today is one of my dumb days. I’m lost. Can’t tell if I’m up or down or turned around!
    I’m so confused! Or is it just me? I’m gonna go back to singing my abc’s…

  61. Kim says:

    Does anyone want to join me for lunch? The Turquoise room, Winslow AZ 10/29. Noon.

    • JC1117 says:

      Mmmm…that place looks really good, Kim.

      C’mon, baby.
      Don’t say maybe.
      I gotta know if their Freshly Baked Honey, Agave Syrup and Butter Glazed Cornbread is gonna save me. πŸ™‚

      I hope I’m in town and my schedule is completely free. I’d go way out of my way for that.

      • Ellen says:

        JC1117…Will you be standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona?…Eagles “Take It Easy”
        Love the old songs…
        And…like Inohury’s comment above…not sure which way the wind is gonna blow yet these days…

        • JC1117 says:

          Hello, Ellen.

          I’m not sure which way the wind is going to blow, either. Winter is approaching quickly this year. Or is it already here? :/

          I have some work to do outside that I was planning to start today. With the cold and rain I realized I’d have to put it off until tomorrow. Now I’m wondering about tomorrow. The weather forecast keeps changing.

          • Point Foot says:

            Sometimes all we can do is wait and see. Everything in God’s time. Maybe the clouds will lift and the rain will disperse and you will get to do the work you had planned.

          • Ellen says:

            Hello, JC1117…

            As a young girl…I was drawn to the song (1956)…”The Wayward Wind” (Gogi Grant) so, in a way, the wind does influence my life’s choices at certain times…

            But, like Albert Einstein said…”One need only think of the weather, in which case the prediction even for a few days ahead is impossible.”

            My “Spidey-Sense” is activated…or has someone gotten into my head (lol)?…”East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet” (Kipling)…one never knows for sure!

            My wish for you…is that tonight you will see a beautiful “Red Sky” and now you can get your outside work/project started tomorrow. Enjoy…Thank you, as always,

            • JC1117 says:

              Hello Ellen, Et Al.

              Well…the weather was alright today. There was the occasional rain shower…and some sleet…but I got a good start. We’ll see what tomorrow brings. I’ll have to start the day bundled up really warm until I start moving. Hopefully, I can get a lot done so I can back to someplace warm.

              Thank You, Ellen for your heartfelt wishes. The world needs a lot more kind people like yourself.

              I’m looking forward to tomorrow and some new Weekly Words. I just hope I can get some sleep. I have a difficult time sleeping some nights.

  62. Point Foot says:

    I am also looking forward to the weekly words tomorrow. They really have become quite an enjoyable pastime reading each week. My family and I are heading out this weekend for one last search to close out the season. The cold weather may limit time in the field so I may have to be highly selective in the stones I chose to turn over. Perhaps I will find my center and pick the right one. Try to get some good sleep JC1117. I know I will be trying too. I don’t want to be tired on my long drive.

    All the best and remember all to enjoy the journey. I certainly have been. And take the family along whenever you can into the wilderness. It makes for fun memories that last a lifetime.

  63. Geydelkon says:

    Got it on 12…. Tris Speaker and Ty Cobb

    • Point Foot says:

      Geydelkon you may well be in front. Does this mean you plan to pick it up in any weather? I plan on keeping warm till all the snow melts as I think we all should do. I think only the master himself knows exactly where it is so in my mind that means it is still anybody’s game.

      I had to read the story about Cobb and Speaker. It was a very interesting story. I like that the game we are all playing is not susceptible to game fixing or cheating. It is a pure game of wits which Forrest has stated may not be found in our lifetimes.

      Another recent story I liked very much was “Hidden Figures.” I watched the movie last night. It’s a fascinating story about some of the hidden heroes behind NASA and getting a man in space and to the moon.

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