Weekly Words from Forrest Fenn for November 11th, 2016

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Weekly Words from Forrest 

Weekly words for November 11th, 2016 are as follows:

*Success is an omniscient guru. f


Best of luck with The Thrill of the Chase and all that you seek! Treasure the Adventure!


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247 Responses

  1. Point Foot says:

    Hmmm… I’m going to have to sleep on this one. It is thought provoking for those of us who know a little about a little. What I must figure out first though is why am I still awake!? Time for some zzzzzzz.
    Thank you Forrest and Jenny.

  2. Heidini says:

    Simple Definition of mahatma
    : a person who is respected for being good, wise, and holy

    F mentioned mahatma before

  3. Jeremy P. says:

    Ok, someone really needs to publish a text book with all these words for students looking to increase their vocabulary.

    • Mindy says:


      A long time ago, one of the pastors at my church took a few select college kids (myself) included, to teach us Greek, so that when we read the Bible, we could read it with more accuracy in context with the original Greek.

      In that class, we learned about the three O’s–
      1. God is omniscient, meaning He knows everything.
      2. God is omnipresent, meaning He is everywhere at once.
      3. God is omnivorous, meaning…oh wait, that was biology…sorry…(lol)
      I mean,
      3. God is omnipotent, meaning God is all powerful.

      That was the only thing I remember about that class. Lol.

      No guru is any of those things, although he can know many things through experiences in his life. Wisdom isn’t learned in school, but through living and experiencing and learning on our journey through life.

      And I believe that even if we ultimately fail at finding the chest, if we’re living well while taking that journey, we end up with more “real” success than what we would gain by actually finding the treasure.

      One other thing I learned in Bible study is a quote from Paul the Apostle. I’m going by memory here, but there’s a verse in Philippians that says something like, “I have learned to be content regardless of my circumstances. I know what it is like to have nothing, and I know what it is like to be rich. I have known hunger and also plenty. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.”

      I know a knowledge of the Bible isn’t needed to find the TC, but sometimes the “life advice” Forrest hints at are found in the Bible…

      Sorry for rambling…

      • Point Foot says:

        I enjoyed your post Mindy. Wise words to live by.

      • Jeremy P. says:

        Two can keep a secret if one of them is busy managing all of creation. If God is omniscient, He knows where Forrest stashed the goods 🙂

      • Presby says:

        Look into the blue light. Your eyes are growing heavy, you’re feeling sleepy—😉

      • Presby says:

        Actually the Dead Sea scrolls were in Aramaic and Hebrew. Very few in Ancient Greek. But your pastor must have been omniscient indeed, to have taught you Ancient Greek. Since almost no contemporary religious clerics are proficient even in classic Latin. Except the Catholics taught in seminaries. How extraordinary your pastor must have been. Especially as he recognized your rare gifts Indeed.

        • Presby says:

          Moreover, the original bible texts were transcribed ,as were all transcribed secular and religous texts in Europe, in Latin, not Greek.

        • SDawn says:

          Presby, the New Testament was written in koine Greek, the common language of the day (from which root comes the word “koinonia” or fellowship).

          from Wikipedia:
          “Koine Greek (UK English /ˈkɔɪniː/, US English /kɔɪˈneɪ/, /ˈkɔɪneɪ/ or /kiːˈniː/; from Koine Greek ἡ κοινὴ διάλεκτος, “the common dialect”), also known as Alexandrian dialect, common Attic, Hellenistic or Biblical Greek (Modern Greek: Ελληνιστική Κοινή, “Hellenistic Koiné”, in the sense of “Hellenistic supraregional language”), was the common supra-regional form of Greek spoken and written during Hellenistic and Roman antiquity and the early Byzantine era, or Late Antiquity. It evolved from the spread of Greek following the conquests of Alexander the Great in the 4th century BC, and served as the lingua franca of much of the Mediterranean region and the Middle East during the following centuries. It was based mainly on Attic and related Ionic speech forms, with various admixtures brought about through dialect levelling with other varieties. Koine Greek displayed a wide spectrum of different styles, ranging from more conservative literary forms to the spoken vernaculars of the time. As the dominant language of the Byzantine Empire, it developed further into Medieval Greek, which in turn evolved into Modern Greek. Koine Greek remained the court language of the Byzantine Empire until its dissolution in 1453, while Medieval and eventually Modern Greek were the everyday language.

          “Literary Koine was the medium of much of post-classical Greek literary and scholarly writing, such as the works of Plutarch and Polybius. Koine is also the language of the Christian New Testament, of the Septuagint (the 3rd-century BC Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible), and of most early Christian theological writing by the Church Fathers. In this context, Koine Greek is also known as “Biblical”, “New Testament”, “ecclesiastical” or “patristic” Greek. It continues to be used as the liturgical language of services in the Greek Orthodox Church.”

          (What better way to share the letters, instruction and teaching of the apostles among the various early groups of believers than to write them in the common language used throughout the Roman Empire?)

          from the Israel Antiquities Library, the Leon Levy Dead Sea Scrolls digital library:
          “While the majority of Dead Sea Scrolls were written in Hebrew, the collection also includes many Aramaic and Greek texts, as well as some Arabic texts and a small number of Latin fragments…

          “Aramaic was the Near East “lingua franca” of the Biblical period, and it is still used among several Christian communities today. Just like the Hebrew Scrolls, the majority of Aramaic manuscripts were written in standard “square” (“Jewish”) script. Represented in the Dead Sea Scrolls are a variety of Aramaic dialects: Official Aramaic, Jewish Palestinian Aramaic, Nabatean, and Christian Palestinian Aramaic.

          “Scroll dates range from the third century BCE (mid–Second Temple period) to the first century of the Common Era, before the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE… While Hebrew is the most frequently used language in the Scrolls, about 15% were written in Aramaic and several in Greek. All of the Greek texts among the Dead Sea Scrolls are written in koine, the common dialect of the post-classical Hellenistic and Roman worlds and the New Testament language.”

          The Dead Sea Scrolls, from what I gathered from a VERY brief overlook of the D.S.S. digital library website (a pretty good authority, I think), the caves where the scrolls were found were a sort of library of secular AND sacred writings of a Hebrew sect or sects. The New Testament epistles and letters that were shared among the churches were written in the common language of the day, that is, koine Greek.

          Translation of the Old and New testaments into Latin came later, after the Christian church and Constantine joined forces and the “Roman Catholic” church came into being, and Latin became the language of the priests. The common man wasn’t even allowed to have any of the OT or NT in his possession, and once the bible was translated into Latin he couldn’t have understood it anyway, since Latin wasn’t the common everyday language of most people in the empire, anyway.

          Funny, history in high school was my most disliked subject. 🙂

  4. Milan says:

    My family and I enjoy Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness because of the enduring sacrifices of our brave veterans. Huge thanks!

  5. Jeremy P. says:

    If omniscience is all knowledge, and knowledge is power, and imagination is more important than knowledge, then imagination surpasses the most powerful.

  6. Mindy says:

    Thank you, FennJenn. 🙂

    Maybe this is a tag along of last week’s words?

    Guru–I know I’ve seen that word in a recent comment somewhere…

    From etymology online:
    guru (n.) Look up guru at Dictionary.com
    1806, gooroo, from Hindi guru “teacher, priest,” from Sanskrit guru-s “one to be honored, teacher,” from guru- “venerable, worthy of honor,” literally “heavy, weighty,” from PIE root *gwere- (2) “heavy” (see grave (adj.)). Generalized sense of “mentor” is from 1940 (in H.G. Wells); sense of “expert in something” first recorded c. 1966 in Canadian English in reference to Marshall McLuhan.

    So, maybe this is Forrest’s way of saying that he (the successful one) is a teacher who knows what’s going on– a silent but present observer.

    I also see the word comes from the PIE root: “heavy.”

    Too early for thinking. Lol.

    • astree says:

      The words are compelling, in that they might be applied both to the chase, and to life in general.

      There is a bit of a catch, because success comes, then the omniscient teacher. Indeed, it could be quite weighty. These 11/11 words, are is reminiscent of Matthew 13:12 – “One who gets it will get more”

      To the chase, the one who opens the lid will have sucCESs (ok, CE5).

    • JC1117 says:

      Hello, Mindy.

      It’s always too early for thinking for me. lol.

      And I agree with your thought that Forrest…”(the successful one) is a teacher who knows what’s going on– a silent but present observer.” Even if he has taken a step back from The Chase…doctor’s orders. I believe he’s still watching what is going on…and contributing.

      I would add, however, that Forrest is not only a (somewhat) “silent but present observer”…but he is also a prescient observer.

      I wish I was. I’d be a lot more successful in life.

      Dear Santa,

      I’ve been a…uhhh…mostly…good boy this year. Please bring me the coolest, omniscient prescients that you can think of…and a scooter.

      I promise to be nice to my sisters.

      Thank you, 🙂


      Thanks again, Forrest and Jenny. Always something to think about.

  7. SL says:

    Bingo! Jeremy P,

    If imaginations were to materialize and become out there real and transparent,….. where would the mind go to play?


  8. Mindy says:

    There are many variations of this little fable on the Internet. Here is one of them. I think it might be relevant:

    A man wanted to know the secret of success, and decided to find out from a Guru.
    Now this was a wise, old sage who knew every secret of Life. He lived in splendid isolation on a mountain-top. Our hero set out on his difficult journey to meet this wise man.

    He was determined to reach the top, and so he got over many obstacles on his way. Fighting through thick forests, scaling huge boulders, escaping from wild beasts, at last he clambered to the peak and lay on the ground, gasping for breath.

    A few minutes later, he sat up… and beheld the Guru seated in deep meditation.

    Silently, he waited. Almost an hour later, the Guru opened his eyes and glanced at the man. He raised an inquiring eyebrow.

    The man stammered, “Oh wise and all-knowing seer, I come to you in search of the secret of success.”

    The Guru didn’t reply. He simply stood up and started walking down the hill.

    The man followed. He found it difficult to keep pace with the old man, who seemed to skip from one rock to the other like a mountain-goat. They walked steadily for another hour, and he wondered if they were going back to the foothills.

    Suddenly, they came upon a clearing. In the middle was a clear lake. The waters were still, glinting softly in the rays of a setting sun.

    The Guru walked up to the edge of the lake and beckoned the man closer. With a gesture, he asked him to kneel down.

    Unquestioningly, the man did as the Guru ordered.

    Suddenly, he felt himself seized by a strong hand at the back of his neck. His head was forced down under the water, and held there firmly.

    “This is some kind of test,” said the man to himself, as he sat still.

    A minute passed, and he was growing breathless. The grip on his neck hadn’t weakened. Another minute crawled by, and now he was getting anxious. His heart beat heavily in his chest, his throat tightened, and his lungs screamed for air.

    He struggled to arise, and the old man’s grip became even stronger, pressed him further down into the water.

    Now, the man was in a panic. He thrashed around wildly, trying with all his energy to loosen the vise around his neck. Precious seconds passed, and he felt his strength slowly ebbing away.
    He thought he was going to die!

    Just as he was about to give up hope, rueing his folly in ever coming here, the hand on his collar let go.

    Violently leaping onto the shore, the man drew in his breath in heaving gasps. Delicious oxygen flooded his lungs. His vision grew clearer, the hammering in his throat slowed down, his hands stopped trembling.

    And he felt a deep anger welling up from within himself.

    Standing up, he faced the Guru and screamed: “Are you CRAZY? You could have killed me!”

    The Guru simply stared at him for a long moment.

    Then he spoke for the first time.

    “You wanted to know the secret of success. Here it is. Do you remember, just a few minutes ago, how badly you wanted to take that next breath of air? When you want success that badly, you will have it. That’s the secret of success.”

    Without saying another word, he turned around and walked back to his hilltop abode.

  9. astree says:



    IS ONCE MINT, 11/11

  10. The Wolf says:

    Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known ~ Carl Sagan

  11. SL says:

    The Wolf,
    Human initiated contact. (Mutual, bilateral communication rather than unilateral contact).
    CE5 ? – Perhaps.

    • The Wolf says:

      I have often thought about of that connection to CE5. However, the above quote is closer related to Carl Sagen’s quote from Cosmic Connection, “We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.”

      Sound familiar?

      Also, both Sagen quotes use the word “know” – a highly correlated chase related word.

      • Stonerolledaway says:

        I love that quote. Didn’t realize it was attributed to Carl Sagen

      • SL says:

        The Wolf,

        Appreciate and respect your opinion.

        Familiar? Would that also include a comparison/connection with Dorothy and the Ruby Slippers?



        • The Wolf says:

          Thank you SL,
          That is interesting how you mention the ruby slippers. I do feel there is a Wizard of Oz connection (more subtle of course). I noticed that you mentioned Moses below as well. I have got to hand it to you – Moses is something I have been holding close for many a year. Mr. Fenn’s portrayal of the wooden Moses is peculiar and mystical. I think when one understands, Moses, they will have the upper-hand on this chase.

          Of course – this thread title is inline with this type of thinking. Hands a clapping for you.

    • Jeremy P. says:

      Because the “CE5” thing has been coming up a lot recently, despite Forrest saying that it is just a part of his personal inventory and pricing system, I thought I’d share that it really is just a part of his personal inventory and pricing system. If you dig deep enough, you’ll find that there are other examples:


      Note the “YE5”, indicating the price of $15,000.

      It is very unlikely that it’s anything other than what Forrest said it was.

  12. OH! says:

    OUCH! 🙂 Ok, JD, your philosophy?

  13. JL says:

    Hmm. Success
    Sounds like Omni from India is now moved to the front of the pack.
    IM ON SIENT of URGU success is the timepiece at hand.

    IMO someone has found the crazy eight and has the scent of the cat o nine tails.

  14. Presby says:

    It”s only when you realize that in some instances, failure is more desirable than success, that you truly succeed.

  15. JDA says:

    “Success is the teacher that knows it all” is a simpler way of stating today’s post. Forrest may be telling us that without success, we can NOT know it all. On the blogs, there are a few people who profess to “Know it all”, but in reality KNOW little or nothing, since they do not hold the treasure – they have NOT been successful at the search.

    Possibly just a gentle poke in the ribs at these individuals – Just a thought. JDA

  16. Evan says:

    Fewer words; more wisdom

  17. pdenver says:

    Thank you for this week’s “Weekly Words,” Jenny and Mr. Fenn. I greatly appreciate it.

  18. Twingem says:

    So get a metal detector, go back, and then send a letter. Got it.

    Or, there is no such thing as success.

  19. jonsey1 says:

    These words remind me of my old English teacher, Ms. Jarroh, spending a while semester on writing 3rd person omni point of view narrative. Tolkien, Wells, etc have perfected this to an art. The sample way she, and many good writers put it, is “show don’t tell”

    I doubt it’s what F meant in this scrapbook but seems that F, successful writers, and omniscient gurus all have one thing in common at least…they all are very good in “keeping their secret” by showing and not telling. As always thanks F and Jenny, a fun Friday thought to ponder….especially on such a holiday. THANK YOU VETS.

  20. Lia says:

    No idea what to draw from this comment or what may be inferred . But, I enjoyed a good laugh nonetheless.
    In my single days “guru” was code for r.u.g.u.
    “aRe yoU Geographically Undesirable?” so if a guy lived in another part of the state he couldn’t be a potential boyfriend – so far away and became guru.

    Living in Texas makes me G.U. to search any longer. Best of luck to those who live in treasure hunting geographically desirable locals.

  21. Ramona says:

    Thank you Forrest.
    Thank you Jenny.
    Thank you Veteran’s.
    Have a wonderful day all.
    Omniscient, I had to look that word up.

  22. Strawshadow says:

    Thank you Jenny, Mr. Fenn and most importantly our VETERANS.

  23. Sparrow says:

    Success is an omniscient guru. f

    The gist of today’s quote could be an anagram I can’t decipher—that would be my guess, but
    I’m not really sure. There sure are a lot of S’s in the sentence though. 🙂

    Thank you veterans!!!

  24. Presby says:

    This reminds me of the movie “Kumare”. Sad and brilliantly funny. An indo-American decides he’s going to explore the phenomenon of how easily people will follow a fake guru. He dons a fake accent and proceeds to pontificate his “religion”. It demonstrates how easily people that know nothing , can fool others into believing they have some special knowledge and gain a “following”. The only thing required, is a lack of integrity.

    “Look into the blue light”

  25. Chesney says:

    All gave some, some gave all! Thank you Mr. Fenn, for your dedicated service to our great country and the Weekly Words! Thank you Veterans who served to make this country what it is today. Thank You Ms. Kile for all of your hard work and dedication to your blog. I am thankful for everyone, because as my late Grandfather would say “One hand washes the other”! We can’t make it alone in life, sometimes we need a helping hand!

  26. Iron Will says:

    Yep Happy Veterans Day everyone. I think I know what these weekly words mean, but I don’t want to spoil everyone’s fun trying to figure it out, plus I’m at work and have limited time to look it all over. I will say I think this week’s words are pointing to something. Does anyone else remember (hint) ? 😉

    • Heidini says:

      knowing everything.
      “the story is told by an omniscient narrator”
      synonyms: all-knowing, all-wise, all-seeing
      “he thought I was some kind of omniscient guru”

      Simple Definition of mahatma
      : a person who is respected for being good, wise, and holy

  27. Passenger says:

    “*Success is an omniscient guru. f”

    You are the key here.

  28. Passenger says:

    Thanks Forrest, Jenny.

    Success is ultimately a game with yourself.

  29. Lia says:

    For some, success is merely defined by surviving to know the love of family/friends. Two people l love were hospitalized today. One care lifted from Montana to Salt Lake hoping to survive the day after a terrible car accident. please pray for “Keri” and also my brother in law who had a heart attack this morning.

    May God, the omnipotent One spare and repair their lives as Forrest was sparred

  30. Jake Faulker says:

    Appears to mean the person who finds the treasure is obviously the successful one that has a lot of uncommon sense & overall knowledge of many things.
    omni – all; of all things.
    scient – scientific
    Guru – A person who has a lot of experience in or knowledge about a particular subject.

    Pretty straightforward.

  31. ROLL TIDE says:

    Thank you Forrest Fenn , Mz. Maven, and all the other veterans out there.

  32. Mike Forni says:

    Mr. Fenn – Thank you for your dedicated military service and weekly words!

    Thanks Jenny!


  33. ROLL TIDE says:

    “If your life is burning well, poetry is just the ash.”
    -Leonard Cohen-
    1934 – 2016

  34. Muset says:

    an omniscient guru = manic genius or nut?

  35. Bailey says:

    Bailey really loves these weekly words. He enjoys looking for Fenn’s Treasure. Bailey mixes a friday happy hour drink, thinking that he will soon find the treasure.
    “This comment was written in 3rd person omniscient” Thanks Jenny and Mr. Fenn!

  36. ACE says:

    What we’ve got here is failure to communicate! Some people you just can’t reach… which is what we had here last week and which is the way they wants it, well they gets it…
    I don’t like this anymore than you do but my hands are tied.
    Just came back from D.C. Watched the changing of the guard at Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery. They have been changing guard every hour on the hour and sometimes every half hour during high tourist seasons since 1948. Regardless of weather through rain snow and even hurricane conditions 24 hrs. a day 7 days a week without fail. It was magical and I wept.

  37. lifesablaze says:

    ” I have 24 siksa-gurus: Prthivi (the Earth), air, water, fire, the Moon, the Sun, the pigeon, the python, the ocean, the moth, the bumblebee, the elephant, the honey collector, the deer, the fish, the prostitute named Pingala, the hawk, the baby, the young unmarried girl, the arrow-maker, the snake, the spider and the wasp.” http://www.purebhakti.com/teachers/bhakti-discourses-mainmenu-61/24-discourses-2005/462-your-twenty-four-gurus.html

  38. astree says:

    (gemini 12 was launched 11/11, ’66)
    edit:”everywhere, everything incredible is waiting to be known”

  39. lifesablaze says:

    astree – Excellent

  40. astree says:

    Thanks, and good morning, lifesablaze 🙂
    I seem to recall that Forrest once commented on Italy. One of my favorite scenes in the Italian “Al Di La” was when the explanation was attempted for “al di la” ( https://youtu.be/gwq461GHZGs?t=2m4s )
    Out of curiousity, I looked at parts of the poem from the IT perspective:
    Begin it where warm waters halt
    ….. begin IT(alian) “where” = dove (the bird, or diving into water – wasn’t there a scrapbook on that?)
    And take it in the water down
    … and take IT(alian) “in” = “fra”
    Not “far” …

    An overwhelming amount of interesting finds.

  41. jonsey1 says:

    Maybe Mother Nature has something to say about Success?

    Biologically the species is the accumulation of the experiments of all its successful individuals since the beginning.
    -H. G. Wells

    F said a butterfly is a real flutterby. I hope he’s talking about the European Peacock Butterfly.

    • The Wolf says:

      I see what you are saying.

      • SL says:

        I found the history between Richard Wetherill, Bill Finn and the Ojo Alamo Trading Post; independent from Chaco Canyon’s location, to be of of great interest. ( “Ojo” meaning…..’Eye” and Cottonwood’). In addition, I believe the ‘X’ to be connected to Ojo Alamo Site as well.

        BTW,….the spelling of this historic family, Wetherill, from Chester, Pennsylvania…. was originally…. “Wethereld.”


        Could a special space be waiting for yet, one more piece?

        Put me over a Barrel, but ,am going back for more!!



      • jonsey1 says:

        I read once an article about how most teachers nowadays would equate IO to instructional Objectives. It is much more rare to find a biologist that gets excited with thoughts of the intricate wings of the IP moth, or the pronounced spires of the only member of the mullosk IO family pleurocitatidae……even rarer is the teacher that would identify it with Zues, who through his love for Inachus transformed Up into a white pig, and later a distant satellite of Jupiter was named for her.
        Despite these things it is almost nonexistent to find a teacher for whom it would conjure up distant thoughts of Ionium a 1907 periodic table element located between uranium and radium, already on its way, back then, to its path of radioactive destruction…..but who knows anyhow, maybe there’s some turquoise buried under there formed as a secondary mineral when warm waters halt throughout the rocks of time. I wish there were still teachers around like they were back when F was young, those kids seem to have learned from a different basket of success.

        • jonsey1 says:

          * moth genus IO, transformed IO into a white pig, ZEUS, etc…..you get it sry for my spell check. I hate T9.

          Eye-oh, Eye-OH, it’s off to work eye go 😉

  42. Iron Will says:

    Ok please allow the mathematician side of me to offer you all an equation that might help deliver insight on these words.

    Gº + 4(ST) + 10
    ————————- = 😉

  43. Strawshadow says:


    • pdenver says:

      Hello Strawshadow. I had to ask my son to help me translate what you were saying. Now you have me curious. Who’s words do you speak?

      • Strawshadow says:

        Not yours:) no need to elaborate. Enjoy the Chase pdenver.

        • pdenver says:

          Thank you, Strawshadow. I appreciate your response.

          • Strawshadow says:

            Your welcome, I apologize for my confusion on the fourth as well, I was just playing around.

            • pdenver says:

              It’s hard for me to try and understand what people are trying to say. I end having to use many dictionaries and sometimes still don’t understand. There’s many times I’ve found regular expressions means something totally different. No apologies needed. It’s me who has the difficulties for understanding.

              • Strawshadow says:

                What seems funny to me is when I write or read something then long afterwards understand it in a different way. The written message can be difficult to understand unless you know the person behind the words.

                • pdenver says:

                  I concur, Strawshadow. I hope you, and others, don’t mind when I ask questions. I think most things go over my head when I try to understand what’s being said. Written messages can be fun to understand once one understands them.

  44. SL says:

    pdenver and Strawshadow,

    You’ve been blessed with incredible humility, kindness and wisdom. I appreciate the patience you have always given me. It can be difficult to understand and get ‘me’ right at times. Not for you, it seems!


  45. Sparrow says:

    Old bearded man? I just love Santa Claus don’t you?

  46. 5-leaf blaze says:

    This speaks directly to those closest to finding the chest. No need to find hidden meanings. Things are becoming very clear these days.

  47. Onuat says:

    Omniscient…All knowing,all wise,all seeing . Reminds me of Hear,See and Speak no evil.
    Being humble will yield success.
    Thanks again Jenny and Forrest.

  48. Sparrow says:

    G degree Forrest Fenn plus ten. That’s what the call Santa in Andorra.

  49. 5-leaf blaze says:

    Thx, man. There are no new clues as good as the 9, and no newer hints that will ever be as good as the earlier ones. Unless of course our puzzle master really wants to set the hunt on overload and end it soon. I tend to lean more toward Forrest seeing if these close people can brilliantly extract this thing.

  50. Iron Will says:

    It’s of my opinion that this week’s words is a sort of reminder that Forrest has given to all searchers about something he felt needed to be at least… hinted out. If I’m right, something happened to the Chase that he had not counted on. When I saw it, I actually chuckled, and thought to myself, “Boy I bet he hadn’t figured on that happening!” . And the success of finding the treasure kind of hinges on understanding what he was trying to say. This week’s words is simply a reminder. I know the point here I’m trying to drive, is way too theoretical, given that I must state IMO… but I’m confident that it is so much more than theory.
    And on another topic, Just last night I actually figured out what Just take the chest and go in peace means. It’s actually pretty funny. No one is going to figure it out without knowing where the treasure is either IMO 😉

    • The Wolf says:

      I don’t think anything is funnier than a dog measurements, so let me guess. You are triangulating from the wiener dog Tesuque’s chest with the tangent of the radial arc from Tesuque’s spray when he lifts his leg at a picnic bench from a park in the town of West Yellowstone=> Take the “chest and go in pees” 😉

      • Iron Will says:

        The dog measurements were truly funny in hindsight, but at least it gave little Tesuque the spotlight for a small time outside of Forrest’s posts. But I never failed. I simply discovered another path of thousands that do not lead to the treasure. But I only need to find one to make it work. I’m confident now, I have found that one. On Forrest’s friend’s ranch near Santa Fe.

      • Buckeye Bob says:

        Then I guess the wind would account for the direction from the Blaze.
        Forrest probably didn’t have time to take a “radial”, getting out of the way and all.

      • JC1117 says:

        Hello, All.

        The most common oversight I encounter when people are making or using dog measurements is they forget to multiply by 7 to make a truly accurate conversion to dog measurements.

        For example, if the treasure is worth 1 million dollars then it is ACTUALLY worth 7 million dollars in dog money.

        Or…if you take your dog on a fun adventure to look for treasure in 1 specific location then in your dog’s mind he/she went with you to that location 7 times…and, in theory, had 7 times more fun than you did.

        It’s one reason, I believe, why dogs seem to be 7 times more happy and loyal than their human friends.

    • JL says:

      The way I toss that one around is that you should have no worries. This world is uncertain at best but safe passage back too your vehicle is guaranteed because of the location. It’s all about location location location.

    • Kedar's Mom says:

      I know what it means.

  51. 5-leaf blaze says:

    In–piece maybe. But this close searcher may not know they are the one, particularly. Forrest may be confused why they can’t find it.

    • Buckeye Bob says:

      If someone knows where it is, and if Forrest knows it, then I don’t think Forrest is confused at all.
      But I honestly don’t think he will help anyone out like that.
      Rather, and as I’ve stated before, I think that when Forrest sees someone got a particular aspect right, then he moves on with a new release of another step.
      That’s open for all to see, if they can realize it. I don’t think the person who got something right has any advantage here, since they don’t know they did, and since they still have to tie it together just like anyone else.
      I think Forrest planned it out that way from the beginning.
      That’s what I would do, anyhow. After 15+ years of planning. It makes the game afoot so much better.

  52. GEYDELKON says:

    Still thinking as I point to the left, but still don’t know what I am looking at.

  53. Point Foot says:

    “I will give you hidden treasures, riches stored in secret places, so that you may know that I am the LORD, the God of Israel, who summons you by name.”(Isaiah 45:3)

    • Point Foot says:

      But I still don’t know when my next trip will be… I’ve just been studying spiritual things. I want to be in the right frame of mind before I go again… the biblical quote above stood out to me in my studying. I never knew that God blesses some people with secret treasures.

      • DU says:

        Thank you Jenny and Forrest for this “Weekly words”. Lots to absorb, look at and listen to!

      • JC1117 says:

        Hello, Point Foot.

        Good luck on your next trip…whenever that will be.

        I see that you love reading Isaiah, too. That’s some Heavy Reading. He certainly had a very Spiritual Perspective.

        I’d envy Isaiah…except I’m told not too. lol! I’ll just say I have a lot of respect for him…and hope to meet him One Day.

        I’d imagine he’ll be sitting at The Great Banquet Table. I reckon I’ll just keep my mouth shut and deliver the food and drinks…if I’m lucky enough to wait on that table. 🙂

        Again, good luck on your trip…whenever that is.


        I am sure that He will leave the Light on for you.

        • Point Foot says:

          Hi JC1117,

          Thank you! All in His perfect timing. I believe without the right heart one will never find the treasures waiting to be found. So I’ve been working on my heart and my soul and my spiritual growth. It is as you said heavy reading but it is food for the soul.

          Isaiah would certainly be someone I would hope to meet one day too! Perhaps I will be blessed to be in the same room one day as well. If you are serving I will consider myself lucky to be the one clearing the plates! LOL.

          The Light has definitely been turned on and it is burning brightly. If I have been divinely inspired perhaps I will be led to the right hidey spot on my next trip…whenever that is…

          God bless!

    • Lia says:

      Point foot, you quoted Isaiah 45:3 regarding the LORD God of Israel giving King Cyrus treasures and riches. Of more interest imo is the LORD calling Cyrus by name 200 years before Cyrus was born… to prove God’s omniscience. The following is John Gill’s related commentary:
      Verse 3
      And I will give thee treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places,…. What had been laid up in private places, and had not seen the light for many years. The Jewish Rabbins sayF6, that Nebuchadnezzar having amassed together all the riches of the world, when he drew near his end, considered with himself to whom he should leave it; and being unwilling to leave it to Evilmerodach, he ordered ships of brass to be built, and filled them with it, and dug a place in Euphrates, and hid them in it, and turned the river upon them; and that day that Cyrus ordered the temple to be built, the Lord revealed them to him: the riches of Croesus king of Lydia, taken by Cyrus, are meant; especially what he found in Babylon, which abounded in riches, Jeremiah 51:13. PlinyF7 says, when he conquered Asia, he brought away thirty four thousand pounds of gold, besides golden vessels, and five hundred thousand talents of silver, and the cup of Semiramis, which weighed fifteen talents. XenophonF8 makes mention of great riches and treasures which Cyrus received from Armenius, Gobryas, and Croesus:

      that thou mayest know that I the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel; to call him by name two hundred years, or near it, before he was born, was a proof that he was God omniscient, and knew things before they were, and could call things that were not, as though they were; and this Cyrus was made acquainted with; for, as JosephusF9 says, he read this prophecy in Isaiah concerning him; and all this being exactly fulfilled in him, obliged him to acknowledge him the Lord, to be the Lord God of heaven, and the Lord God of Israel, Ezra 1:2.

  54. Point Foot says:

    The more I learn the more fascinated I become. Thank you for sharing the details. It is enlightening.

  55. lifesablaze says:

    Good morning all – Here is my search trail this morning: First I removed the two C’s from success to get suess. Google suess…many paths there. I chose Hans Suess (d. 1522 a significant number for me so I followed the trail)>>>painting of St. George>>>St. George and the dragon>>>The Golden Legend>>>Sabazios!!!>>>Sky Father>>>miracle tales of relics>>>Syria Palaestina>>>Palmyra…..So my brain is quiet happy now and I have so much to THINK about instead of worries that want to chew on me. Which is, I believe, part of the message of St. George and earlier stories of battling the chthonic serpent; conquering the chaos, bringing forth creativity. Interesting I picked up 2 books at a yard sale the other day one H.P. Lovecraft collection of stories (which I have been unable to completely read in the past as they strike a very dark chord in me) and Einstien’s Theory of Relativity. Somehow it all ties together. Ohhhh…now on to suessite>>>discovered by Hans Eduard Suess (researcher also in the field of cosmochemistry)>>>olivine pigeonite achondrite (haven’t we seen of derivative of these words before? olive, pigeon..) Oh now I remember my original search goal today was Eric Sloane’s Swiss Morning, which I woke up thinking about. Now where exactly does that fit? Lol! Oh my, I have quite a basketful of berries this morning! Hahaha!

    • JC1117 says:

      Wow, Lifesablaze!

      That’s a lot to think about in one morning. The equivalent of that typically takes me a whole year…

      …IF I can even get my brain going in the morning.


      It’s even harder to start on mornings when it’s cold out. 🙂

      I better get to work.

    • Buckeye Bob says:

      Ha, I was the same way on Lovecraft. Those stories are so dark and always end with the darkness winning (except for one, I think) that it’s the stuff of nightmares. I only finished them when I got older and had a firmer grasp on reality.

  56. GEYDELKON says:

    Is Your Canyon a Canyon?

    In my solution it=death and it can be in any canyon you chose. IMO

  57. lifesablaze says:

    Ok…Eric Sloane Swiss Morning is my guru mountain!

  58. JC1117 says:

    Hello, All.

    I just got into the house from gazing at the Supermoon.

    It is magnificent at this moment…just over the shoulder of Orion.


    So peaceful.

    • Ellen says:

      JC1117…I was also drawn to gaze at the amazing and Historic Super Full Moon that was visible across the Globe. Just realizing that it was closer to the Earth than it has been since 1948 and that it will not happen again until 11/25/2034…made it perhaps a “once in a lifetime” MOMENT for me…

      Anyway, thank you for the link to the “Blade Runner – Tears in Rain” Final scene. I will make it a point to watch the movie sometime soon…it brought powerful imagery, timelessness and the possibility of Hope/Peace/Understanding…

      • JC1117 says:

        Hello, Ellen.

        The Blade Runner movie as a whole is a bit weird…but that’s what makes it memorable. 🙂

        That final scene is my favorite.

        We all wield tremendous power with our choices and actions. In the end…after all other paths have been taken…Forgiveness/Mercy is the only Way to Peace.


        • Passenger says:

          It’s a shame Ridley Scott is not directing the new Blade Runner 2049…. just producing. I guess he was busy with Prometheus 2 (Which I know not many loved — but anything Alien, Giger has my heart).

          BTW… I live in San Francisco, which means Franscisco the Saint.


          • astree says:

            My daughter pointed out to me several months ago, that the first person to walk on the moon was neilA.
            Have you watched the “Predator” (and Alien vs Predator) movies?

            • Passenger says:

              Astree, Neil on the Moon and man’s quest for understanding reminds me of the monas philosophy of Gottfried Leibniz, although it’s somewhat backwards.

              Astree, I’ve never heard Fenn talk about Italian class but you could sure pick miss Ford, his Spanish Teacher out of a line up.

              Can you please tell me how to post an avatar/picture? img tag , a href= or just http?


    • astree says:

      For the sky gazers, tonight the Leonids shooting stars peak. The moon is going to make it hard to see.


      To keep it on top ic, at the end of “The Thrill of the Chase” (p. 145), the woodcutter is done, gazing at the night sky (?). What do you think he is looking at? IT has been mentioned that “dove” is ITalian for “where”, and as well, that the he could be looking at the missing “LOG”. Other thoughts?

      (The Blade Runner is a classic, the “crying in the rain” scene a definite highlight.)

    • 23kachinas says:

      JC1117 – Thank you for reminding us all to look up. It’s most peaceful dreaming under the stars and moon, like the ancients use have with reverence and awe.

      Years back before TTOTC had a dream that time (analog clocks) stood still (stopped ticking) before me and I sensed the moment was important for some reason. I was in a cozy mostly wooden cafe on a hill overlooking a spectacular iridescent aurora at twilight across an expansive view.

  59. Iron Will says:

    Experienced the funniest thing (at least for today) shopping online for t-shirts over at Design By Humans…


    Notice the Omega, and at the bottom of the page X marks the spot of the Indulgence (42 pound chest). And somewhere on that shirt are the 3 beings that know where the chest is at IMO 😉
    And since they forgot to include me in it, I had to order one and wear it so the shirt would be more accurate. 😛
    Dusting off my cowboy hat and planning a trip to a ranch near Santa Fe early this coming Spring.

    BTW, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone this holiday season!

  60. Sweetchuck says:

    VUCA Forrest,

    Have we entered the final scene?

    Experience has proven that when what your looking for is no longer visible, look directly down, as it is probably under your nOse. I spy “Si”, but unsure for sure.

    The hunter has become the hunted,

    OODA Sweetchuck

    • Buckeye Bob says:

      Hello Sweetchuck.
      I’m not sure how to define the final scene, but I think Old Man Winter has a say.
      How gracious is Mother Nature, eh?

      • JL says:

        My experience is that you will receive no grace from Old Man Winter once you get into November, but I guess if Mother Nature is his wife she could put her foot down and say enuff is enuff, please. 🙂

  61. E.C. Waters says:

    Several “Ojo” and “Ojito” location names exist around a couple of “Gurule” location names in northern NM.

    Just sayin. Sorry for assaulting your senses with Spanish again.

    • E.C. Waters says:

      Yeah, so I’ll just spell out my thoughts for a translation on this: Success is ubiquity. Abiquiu Lake to be specific when one considers the clue correlation hotspots in this vicinity. The Wires, the Emptiers, and the Coerce, please don’t hate the Enemies.

      Lemme know if you want that last bit translated, too. Just trying to help ya’ll think like a fin.

  62. Mindy says:

    Oh my goodness. I don’t know how we all danced around this, but this is referencing the Vignette on Dal’s called “Well, Here’s Moses.”

    And interesting that I’d been talking about that Vignette for about a month PRIOR to those words. Why I didn’t recognize the words, I don’t know…too busy concentrating on the other words in the vignette, I guess.


    Now I know I was right…I think….gotta go back and rethink a couple things…

  63. Jonsey1 says:

    “Success is an omniscient guru” is a quote from the book “Imagining India”. It means that to be an “omniscient” (all knowing) guru one has also been through/seen all the failures and resulting ripples as well. According to the book failure is also an omniscient guru. He has the book.

    • locolobo says:

      Thanks, JJ!
      It’s always smart, when reading Fenn’s words, to view them from every possible point of view. This aspect of omniscient would definitely seem to point to something other than Moses. 🙂

      • Jonsey1 says:

        I don’t know much about religion , just commenting on the origin of the quote if ppl. were interested. 😉

  64. 23kachinas says:

    Cheer and joy are the real assets of wealth for a human being. Richness in terms of the currency of happiness is the prerequisite to achieving the ultimate spiritual quest – blissful ecstasy.

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