Forrest’s Surprise Words: Your Spot

surprise words forrest fennSurprise Words from Forrest:

Don’t force the poem to fit your spot. Thank you Mark. f



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115 Responses

  1. Jake Faulker says:

    Thanks Jenny, Forrest & Mark.
    Makes sense to me….

  2. Squat Cobbler says:

    Should we “fit your poem to spot the force”

  3. Squat Cobbler says:

    Or more specifically should we, fit your poem to spot the word “force”

  4. Mike Forni says:

    Thanks Forrest, Jenny & Mark-

    At the beginning I found myself forcing “my spot”, the better path is to find “Master Fenn’s Spot”. Where is the end of his rainbow? What kind legacy does he want leave behind? What does he hold dear and why? Is Forrest trying to teach us a lesson? These are the questions I grapple with. Now, I am starting to find meaning behind the TTOTC and the poem.

    Happy Trails My Friend!

  5. Belle says:

    Amen to that!!!

  6. Chesney says:

    If I were looking at 2 cars on their side in a particular rivulet, with what would possibly look like a cannon behind it (imagination needed)…. would I be forcing my spot? All hypothetical of course! Thank you Mr. Fenn, Ms. Kile and Mark! Poor Mark! 🙁

  7. Chesney says:

    Ms. Kile, I have to ask a stupid question. Was the Crowbar picture your idea for this post, or Mr. Fenn’s idea. I mean I can’t tell what manufacturer made it, (I.e. Stanley, Craftsmen, etc) just curious! 🙂 So the brand is irrelevant!

  8. jonsey1 says:

    Or else there’s a nasty pig on the loose mixing it’s suet into Fs poem. Lol.

    suet (n.) pot (v.)
    mid-13c., “to mark or stain with spots;” late 14c. as “to stain, sully, tarnish,” from spot (n.). Meaning “to see and recognize,” is from 1718, originally colloquial and applied to a criminal or suspected person; the general sense is from 1860. Related: Spotted; spotting. Spotted dick “suet pudding with currants and raisins” is attested from 1849.

    g spot (n.)
    also g-spot, 1981, short for Gräfenberg spot, named for German gynecologist Ernst Gräfenberg (1881-1957), who described it in 1950.

    hot spot (n.)
    also hotspot, 1888 as a skin irritation; 1931 as “nightclub;” 1938 in the firefighting sense; 1941 as “place of international conflict.” See hot (adj.) + spot (n.).

    late 14c., “solid fat formed in the torsos of cattle and sheep,” probably from an Anglo-French diminutive of Old French siu “fat, lard, grease, tallow” (Modern French suif), from Latin sebum “tallow, grease” (see sebum). Related: Suety.

    .smear (v.)
    Old English smerian, smierwan “to anoint or rub with grease, oil, etc.,” from Proto-Germanic *smerwjan “to spread grease on” (source also of Old Norse smyrja “to anoint, rub with ointment,” Danish smøre, Swedish smörja, Dutch smeren, Old High German smirwen “apply salve, smear,” German schmieren “to smear;” Old Norse smör “butter”), from PIE *smeru- “grease” (source also of Greek myron “unguent, balsam,” Old Irish smi(u)r “marrow,” Old English smeoru “fat, grease, ointment, tallow, lard, suet,” Lithuanian smarsas “fat”).

    Figurative sense of “assault a public reputation with unsubstantiated charges” is from 1879. Related: Smeared; smearing. Smear-word, one used regardless of its literal meaning but invested with invective, is from 1938.

  9. 23kachinas says:

    Until rainbows are part of the weather forecast you’ll never know when or where you’ll see one.

    • Mike Forni says:

      What about the Rainbow in TFTW? All those pretty colors on Fenn’s map. That’s his rainbow. I am 90% confident. Time to focus on the ends…

  10. The Lone Aspen says:

    The Force be with you Forrest.
    Did some thinking last night, now I will have to go back to the bench my father made me for studying on and think some more …………….

  11. Ricky Nowak says:

    The Force with Forrest? He’s just gloating because someone was forced out of CC is on the Run………..

    Jamie if you want to set up a forum board let me know…………..Anything can go on that board including Fenn:)

    • jonsey1 says:

      Ha…I can see it now..”The Pickle in the Poque”
      (Poke is still used in the Appalacians for “pocket”…some Indian girl told me that after I questioned the contents of his Pockets in a question on here awhile back. I did TRY to find a fold out map of the Appalachians and turquoise lined bracelet in the Poke…but F answered something about a Chap Stick and hearing aid batteries instead. No help there, no hearing aid here….so back to me Conch Shell I guess.) Forum? sure. I’m in. Call me Jonsey on the Dot…..wipe down the mantle and get that bandana ready for some sweat. 😉


      “These are his substance, sinewes, armes, and strength, With which he … Razeth your Cities, and subverts your Townes.”
      (Shakespeare@ Henry VI part II, 1691)

      If you invite your neighbours to a barn raising, you had better get the spelling right, or the consequences might be unfortunate.

      • Ricky Nowak says:

        Already have it set up just have to do the upgrading. It’s called “The Sierra-Hotel”

        A term used by fighter pilots (and those who want to be) which means “Shit-Hot!!”

        Oh my God their already swearing and their not sorry for having an opinion! Their already talking Sierra about me!!

        Where’s my lawyer?

        • jonsey1 says:

          I LOVE the Sierra Hotel name :)!!!went there after getting distracted by a Rainbow during an Ariel Sandwich Manuver myself one time. But I promised not to tell. I hear they were common during “Lunch” time too…but I wasn’t part of that operation. I prefer to order my snacks from a self taught Menu I’m the comfort of my PJs. The Sierra Hotel seems like it would have GREAT NEIGHBOURS in the lounge. X marks the Spot with a Dot and a Dot …. and maybe the spirit of a Navajo Code talker even too. Bwahaaa

          • JL says:

            Sounds great you just need a key, please send me one and my check in time.

          • Ricky Nowak says:

            You can be my Wingman:)

            Can give you full access to the board by a Mod privilege………

            Just don’t blow it up……..Well you can if you think Fenn has over run the place:)


            Basically we want to do the Fenn’s Hunt which will be the 1st board and then create a 2nd board below to do anything with Treasure Hunting………Take a look at Treasure Net and how that is set up:)

            That way once Fenn’s hunt goes it won’t become worthless. The 2nd board will kick in and keep things going…..Unlike CC a dying lame duck.


            • JL says:

              Wow, that looks Ricky rich…….it would be an honor, but I would probably be out of my element in my holy Levis and worn out hikers. Would I have to sign a non-compete clause? How long would the contract be for? Is there room service?

              • Ricky Nowak says:

                Have you ever been to a Pilots Club? Where do you think they blow off the steam and stress at?

                Maybe we’ll throw all bar glasses at the fireplace every night:)

                • Ricky Nowak says:

                  Any ways it has a private viewing section for members only………Tired of all these Guests floating around sticking their noses in my face over at CC. They are the biggest free loaders……..

                  No more of that:)

                  Now I’m just waiting for the lawsuit threats LOL:)

                • JL says:

                  Sounds like my kinda party, but I must request exploding glass just in case I don’t get a direct hit or what if’s a tiny fireplace.

                • Ricky Nowak says:

                  The trick is to use paper or plastic cups;)

                • lia says:

                  Meet me at the pilot’s club. I need a drink and I need to blow off some steam!

                • JL says:

                  Well it appears they lost the licence and got shut down

            • mdavis19 says:

              WTF, Ricky? Your new forum didn’t last long. It was gone before I could even sign up. What happened this time?

  12. Thomas says:

    “You do not need a crowbar,” If you have the “KEY.”

  13. Joe Sparrow says:

    “Don’t force the poem to fit your spot”. I’m confused. You mean the big spot on my wall, the situation I’m currently in, or my dog?

  14. HeadedDown says:

    Is this Mark the poster Mark J?

  15. nmc says:

    Am I the only one who wonders what Mark’s question was?

  16. JDA says:

    “Don’t force the poem to fit your spot. Thank You Mark” f
    Mark can mean Important. If you put the MARK at the front it = “Important; Don’t force the poem to fit your spot. Thank You.” or “Don’t force the poem to fit your spot. Thank You. (This is) Important.”
    Who wrote Forrest a solve that had the solver trying to “force Fit” a particular location into the poem?

    Just something to chew on.

  17. Mike Forni says:

    Another thought JDA, it could be a reference to the only “Question Mark” in the poem. In this sentence, FF is describing the “why” of his hunt. Can’t force the answer, the answer has to “fit” the poem and the FF story.

  18. Iron Will says:

    Now I see why Forrest said, Read the blogs for entertainment . It is very entertaining watching everyone try to figure out who Mark is 😛

    • anna says:

      Mark is my son, we call him
      Markey Mark, a hold over from his childhood. His marquis board at the movies should read: A&M kid finds treasure at the ATM.

      He once hiked some beautiful country alone with me which was the key to him thinking mom was cooler than dad. I loved it! One of my favorite memories. Thanks truly Forrest for elevating my sons estimation of his mama.

  19. anna says:

    No reason to head to crow agency for a beer. I’ll just hang out at the pilots club with the gang here.

  20. Ramona says:

    Thank you Jenny and Forrest for the surprise words and you too Mark.

  21. Snider says:

    As a veteran diesel mechanic,I have learned not to force any part that does not fit.
    Thank you for all your kind words.

  22. Snider says:

    I forgot to mention.
    I have a few parts that I can’t make fit?

  23. Mark J says:

    You are welcome Forrest.

  24. astree says:

    Using force is somewhat countary to the meek.
    from the re its no pla CEFOR the meek
    sounds close to the Home Of Brown

  25. astree says:

    when is Forrest’s birthday any way ?
    thanks in advance ?

    • Chesney says:

      Astree… it is tomorrow. . 8/22 , he will be 13 in his mind, 68 on the backwards bicycle, 86 years the wiser! 🙂

      • astree says:

        Thanks, Chesney. A good ole Leo ( I hop I got the right sign ). Just wait until he’s 91 and gets on that bike. 🙂

        • Chesney says:

          Yes astree, he just barely made the cut to be a Leo. Broken bones don’t mend quite as well, with age. I hope that he will refrain from such activities, llike “The backwards bike”! 🙂

          • astree says:

            Good point. My dad was going to learn to ride my motorcycle when he was about 45; ended up with a few broken ribs and never got on it again.
            But terry scant and marvel gauze, I think he just wrapped it up.

            • Chesney says:

              They can’t do much with broken ribs. Had bruised or broken ribs from a car accident once
              … at least a month of pain. Even rough to try to sleep! 🙁

  26. Spade says:

    And If you throw a Mark Twain quote in the mix maybe he’ll be 180.

  27. BW says:

    Bob, I have never seen a backwards horse. Does it look like a pushme-pullyou? 🙂

  28. Strawshadow says:

    Hmmm, barrancoso comes to mind.

    • JC1117 says:

      Hello, Strawshadow.

      Barrancoso? More like Rollocoso.

      Do you like rollocosos?

      • Strawshadow says:

        Who doesn’t like a classic? Rollocoso? More questions than answers. Like when I first read a poem, looked at a map north of Santa Fe, and left the next morning a few years ago to go and pick up a treasure:)

        • JC1117 says:

          Sorry. I like to make up words…but it doesn’t do any good if nobody understands what it means.

          • Strawshadow says:

            No need to apologize:) I started by going over old notes which took me to an old fishing solution with 36 degree water and spotted fish and Santa Fe in Argentina next to Chile. All I know is writers block is no easy task to overcome for a poor soul who can’t write who just keeps fishing for words.

      • Strawshadow says:

        Crash and burn JC1117, spot on how funny that scene is the most remembered from the wide world of spots.If only he would have hit his spot he would never have been so famous. So why is Your Spot so important? If I’m writing down my thoughts I feel like I should be searching some spot, If I’m searching, I feel like I should be writing something down about that spot. Start at the beginning, define spot, even though my thoughts are a bit spotted today, I will try and spot the spot where undue force was spotted prying with the flow of the poem.

        • JC1117 says:

          Hello, Strawshadow.

          My thoughts are a bit spotted every day…and I still don’t know anything “for sure”.

          For some strange reason…I keep thinking about this today…

          Very spotty, in deed…but it’s a long ways away from the Rocky Mountains.

          • JL says:

            I forsee somewhere on that spot a line being drawn if something doesn’t change soon. Are we fated for history to repeat itself?

            • JC1117 says:

              Wow, JL.

              Your question is fully loaded. I’m afraid I don’t have a very diplomatic answer. It’s a treacherous world we live in. I can’t see why it would suddenly change for the better.

              This could be a long discussion. 🙂 Suffice it to say, I believe that if we…as individuals…are not guilty of hating or launching offenses then our Face to face meeting with our Maker will be a pleasant one.

              I also believe that all men have a God-given Right to stand in defense of Peace, Life, Love and Liberty.

              The history of the world shows there has always been opposition to those Principles.

  29. Squat Cobbler says:

    Thank you Mr Fenn, It took me a few days, but I now understand the Twain quote. I have changed my solve and find myself a good map.

  30. 5-leaf blaze says:

    My spot? A rest area near Santa Fe, with a blown gearbox via the last ascent to town 🙁

  31. John Boy says:

    I am not Mark. However recently I realized I was forcing the poem to fit my spot. I realized it prior to FF making this statement. I believed I knew the creek and the water high. I was wrong. In April I was there and discovered a creek by my water high. I believed I was correct. In retrospect how could I be correct. FF talks about the creek prior to water high. Yet I found my creek AFTER I found water high. I should have known the creek BEFORE I knew water high. It is my OPINION that we should take FF at his word and realize that the poem is much more straight forward than most believe. Each clue (and solution) must come before the next.

    The above is my opinion. I have a tendency to offend people by being straight forward. I hope I have not done so here as it was not my intention.

    GOD bless everyone engaged in TTOTC and FF for providing it for us all.

    John Boy

  32. Thomas says:

    Don’t force the poem to fit your spot, MARK the spot that fit’s the poem? Lol, I don’t know.

  33. Thomas says:

    I really don’t thank Fenn’s word have a meaning about clue’s to the treasure, I thank bye now he’s wishing he never agreed to have to say something every week about it. All Clue to find treasure are in the poem!!! Nope, nope

  34. Washaufizzi says:

    I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one. The Mark has more significance than the force or the spot. Mark J, please don’t claim or lead on to being the person that asked the question, unless (of course) that is the case. It would be very misleading in confirmation of certain solves if it was misrepresented.


  35. SL says:

    “Between a rock and a hard place.” – Been stuck on that one!


  36. Thomas says:

    The poem has been solved!!! My spot was wrong, I was 110% sure too but was 110% wrong. The question is, did I come out of their with something to treasure? Yes, yes I did, my memory of that crazy adventure with two friends from Missouri to New Mexico. THE REAL SOLVE; ” As I have gone alone in there and with my treasure’s bold, I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old”. ( The first four sentences mean, THOUGHT’S and DREAMS.) “Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyon down, not far, but too far to walk, put in below the home of Brown”. ( The next four sentences mean, HEART and SOUL.) ” From there it’s no place for the meek, the end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, just heavy loads and water high. (The meaning for this, one word DEATH.) “If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, look quickly down your quest to cease, but tarry scent and marvel gase, just take the chest and go in peace”. ( meaning, This part means to look at YOURSELF and EXCEPT WHO YOU ARE.) ” So why is it I must go and leave my trove for all to seek? The answer I already know, I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak”. ( This part Forest tells you why he had to lie to you about a treasure chest, it’s because he could tell you till he’s blue in the face to go out and enjoy LIFE and LIVE LIFE, but would you of, if he didn’t sweeten the pot? ) “So hear me all and listen good, your effect will be worth the cold, if you are brave and in the wood, I give you title to the gold”. ( This means, just hear him out before you judge him, listen, you and your family getting out and enjoying life and living it, is worth the cold hearted lie he has told us. I call it a lie because Forest does to! If you have seen Pinocchio fary god mother said; BE BRAVE MY LITTLE PINOCCHIO BE BRAVE.) Yes, their iis a treasure out their for all of us, go out LIVE LIFE, it’s to short, Fenn is still alright in my book!!! Thanks

  37. Chesney says:

    I really thought you might have had something very intelligent to say, but Nope! The Treasure is real, and My Crystal Ball says it will be found VERY soon!

    • Thomas says:

      Chesney, don’t just read threw this solveso fast, thank about the meanings and read it over and over it’s true, also the question that was asked to Fenn, will the poem lead a person to the treasure chest and he answered, “nope”. Now if they would have left out the word chest and just said treasure, the answer would have been, ” Yep”

      • Chesney says:

        I don’t get where you are coming from. Thank and Think have totally different meanings, for starters! And if you don’t believe in Indulgence, why are you here?

      • Andrew Jef says:

        Thomas, what is your “source” for this claim of yours . . . that Fenn answered “will the poem lead a person to the
        treasure chest?” — and he answered “nope”. ??

        Thank you in advance for pointing us to where Fenn said this.

        Good luck in finding whatever you’re seeking.

        • Iron Will says:

          Andrew he is trying to logically replace meanings using the 500 years Featured question…

          If in 500 years all a person has is the poem, and no back story: they don’t know “in the rocky mountains north of santa fe” or that there are 9 clues etc. Could a person reasonably just use the words in the poem and find your treasure chest?

          Thank you ~Nope
          Thank you Nope. Nope. f
          Basically what this says is, will the poem (by itself, without maps, backstory, or intention of 9clues) lead a person to the treasure. And I agree with Thomas’s assessment somewhat. It’s like the Pledge of Allegiance. Let’s assume for just one moment that it is a riddle that leads to a Mason treasure. But no one has ever mentioned that… or hinted about clues within it, or explained a complete backstory behind it’s creator and a treasure he or she hid. So all this time we grow up just repeating the words, never knowing there was a treasure hunt buried within.

          However the logic Thomas wants to use here is slightly flawed, because he has brought about a conclusion that is not supported (completely) by the premises. He did not make clear with his version of the quote that no maps can be used, you can’t know who Forrest Fenn is or anything about his treasure hunt (because that is considered “backstory”).

          Hope that helps…. Will

    • Thomas says:

      And yes the treasure is real but not the one your looking for.

  38. JL says:

    Any thoughts on the reflection in the crowbar? Why is the middle a different color? Then down by the crook on the left eng there seems to be a reflection also but I just can’t make it out.

  39. Chesney says:

    It sure did take me long enough, but I think I finally figured out the hint in this!

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