Featured Question with Forrest: Fly Me to the Moon

Forrest Fenn treasureMr. Fenn,

NASA plans to have a man on Mars in 20-30 years. Given your Indiana Jones personality for adventure and flight, as a young man, would you have wanted to be selected as an astronaut for that program? ~BW

No BW, that NASA thing was not meant for me. It required too much study, and I’m just smart enough to know I’m not smart enough for that program. And I didn’t want to get in the centrifuge. I knew Buzz Aldrin and Dave Scott, both of whom walked on the moon. We were both in the same fighter wing in Germany in 1958 or so.

If one of them called and said, “Hurry Fenn come down here and jump in this rocket with me,” I’d been there in a minute. At 85, I’m still sitting by the phone. That line must be out of order. f


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72 Responses

  1. Jenny Kile says:

    Thanks BW for such a great question; and I love the answer, Forrest. It made me laugh.

  2. Thrills says:

    It would be the thing to go into space. Enjoy the question and answer.

  3. Forrest Fenn says:

    Why are you laughing Jenny, I’m serious?

    • Jenny says:

      I think that is why I’m laughing….because I can totally see you as the first secret Stowaway on a Moon or Mars mission….. Everyone would be wondering, ‘where’s Forrest?’……..

      • Spallies says:

        That is funny Jenny…:)

      • JC1117 says:

        Well…this is cool. I wasn’t expecting to hear from Forrest until maybe Friday. Speaking of stowaways…it would be sooo cool to actually be on the Apollo 11 flight that landed on the moon. You know…like a fly on the wall. 🙂


        Perhaps that will be the entertainment of the afterlife…to go to any moment in time and space and experience it in “real” time.

        “Where are you going, honey?”

        “I’m going fishing with some friends for a few weeks…in Alaska…in 1840. I’ll be back in a just a second. Literally.”

        “Okay. Have fun!” 🙂

        That would never get old.

    • BW says:

      Mr. Fenn, Thank you for answering my question.

      Someday many, many years from now a 9 year old, inquisitive little boy, will be kicking the dust on Mars and have the same joy you had when you found your arrowhead. I wonder what he will find?

    • Jeremy says:

      I know…now, I need to go quickly down and jump in, that’s why I have my waders…patience please- I must wait for my vacation so I can retreat to that warm place one last time…

  4. Wendy Jo says:

    Hurry up Buzz Aldrin and Dave Scott, give Forrest a call!

  5. Mark J says:

    I remember watching the movie Apollo 13 when the astronauts needed to calculate a re entry burn. They all pulled out their slide rules and started doing calculus, I realized that I had made the right decision then.

    On a side note, I once worked with a guy that was a NASA engineer at the start of the moon missions. He once showed me a book with all the calculations that NASA came up with to get a man to the moon. It was several hundred pages.

  6. Jdiggins says:

    “I’m just smart enough to know I’m not smart enough for…”

    I have that thought often… 🙂
    Thanks Jenny and forrest. What a nice surprise. Thanks to you too bw. 🙂

  7. Ramona says:

    This was a nice surprise to my Tuesday. Really fun. Thanks Jenny and Forrest.

  8. locolobo says:

    That line must be out of order? Apparently someone did not follow the directions precisely. Good to hear from you Forrest, you keep us guessing as to when, where and what you will show next! Thanks again forrest, and Jenny, for everything!!

    • Seeker says:

      The line is not out of order, just not placed were we think it should be. Where have I heard that before… lol.

      I’m a bit twisted on; … “We were both in the same fighter wing in Germany in 1958 or so.”
      He knows both men, Was this a simple word mistake such as ‘ we were all in…’ or ‘they were both in…’

      There was no distinction between which men were in the same fighter wing. Then goes back to “If one of them called…”

      Maybe the year[s] will explain. Now my curiosity is heightened.

  9. CordeleGA says:

    I love the video where Buzz Aldrin punches the conspiracy theory nut who has been harassing him for years, claiming the moon landing was faked. I think Mr. Aldrin was in his 70’s when he decked the guy. FYI, please don’t harass Mr. Fenn and tell him that his treasure is not hidden in the Rockies. He may do the same.

  10. Peace will be achieved on Earth when a Warp Drive is developed and we can travel faster than the speed of light to other Habitable Worlds and/or into the unknown. Christopher Columbus not only discovered America, he discovered discovery (David Wootton: The invention of Science)…Glad I am alive during this century, future is bright for humanity.

  11. straw shadow says:

    That line must be out of order? After thinking about that for awhile all I can say is I can’t disagree. Thanks Jenny, Forrest and BW

  12. Crazyfamily says:

    I always find that the phone will ring when I’m trying to do something else.

  13. Timberwolf says:

    I always find that the phone will ring when I am sitting on the toilet. I never answer the phone during T time….

    I missed many moon flights that way… cause T time is MY time. –TW

    • Seeker says:

      LOL Timberwolf,

      I can relate to ” T time is MY time ” My wife always yelling at me… ” T time is not for reading and thinking, it for… and …” Well, you get the gist of .. it.
      I don’t understand her complainting… I mean, there’s a 4 volume set of ‘Uncle john’s Bathroom reader’ Apparently it’s only for “company”

      • JC1117 says:

        I am in total agreement about the cherished “thinking time”, Timberwolf and Seeker. Many times I spend so much time in the Reading Room that my legs fall asleep and turn into pins and needles when I stand up again.

        Regarding the “4 volume set of ‘Uncle john’s Bathroom reader’ Apparently it’s only for “company””. Women are really uptight like that. We have a similar set of books, too. My wife is getting tired of me explaining to our guests all the various sources of the “smudges of ochre” on the pages. :/

        (Sorry about that. That’s not true…but I did work for several years as a Nurse’s Assistant in a care facility and got quite accustomed to “smudges”.)

  14. joe says:

    Fun question and answer. It is interesting to learn more about the man behind the treasure.

  15. astree says:

    Great question and answer. Thanks Forrest and Jenny. Personally, I would like to see the US space program get some traction again.

    Also, respects to Edgar Mitchell, who just passed away. He had some interesting views.


  16. William says:

    Forrest 5 minutes in a centrifuge you would 20 years younger and your mirror might smile back 😉

  17. pdenver says:

    Thank you for posting BW’s question, Jenny. Thank you for the answer, Mr. Fenn. One of the things I’ve noticed is what “down” could mean. 🙂

  18. JohnR says:

    That’s a fun question and response.
    If you could please ask Mr. Fenn if there are “hints” in the TTOTC that will help figure the HOB clue specifically. Pretty please

  19. SL says:

    The universe; another frontier waiting to be called….. a home.

  20. SL says:

    It appears that my reply has been submitted under…. ‘JohnR

  21. Friend says:

    Still by the phone Forrest? Hmmmmm….
    Line out of order? Hmmmmm….

  22. 23kachinas says:

    “Fly Me to the Moon”, originally titled “In Other Words”, is a popular song written in 1954 by Bart Howard. Frank Sinatra’s 1964 version was closely associated with the Apollo missions to the Moon.

  23. astree says:

    I had to stop for a moment and consider the ‘that NASA thing was not meant for me’ vs the minute-ready to jump into the rocket. They probably got the wrong number for the line, so if they really want to contact you I say, “Nasa just needs to visit yonder site > Ask Yahoo !”

    It has answers for everything.

  24. astree says:

    JC117, your “back in a second” (never gets old  ) reminds me of the poor man who went off to pray. He was talking to God, and asked, “God, what is Eternity like for You ?”

    “It is as a second”.

    The man thought for a while, then said “God, how do you see a million dollars?”

    “As a cent”

    The man smiled and said “God, can I have a penny?”

    God smiled and replid, “Wait a second”


    Last night, our family was out in the car, and the new moon was rising in front of us, on the horizon. It had the tiniest of a sliver crescent on it. One of our daughters asked, “Why does it look so big when it’s close to Earth”? Good question, there are several explanations that have been offered. Maybe I’ll go Ask Yahoo.


    • The moon looks so big when rising or setting because it has to go through more atmosphere. Learned that from Disney’s The Kid with Bruce Willis…

      • astree says:

        That’s one of the common explanations, but it’s probably not correct. It seems like it’s more of a psychological phenomena (the way our minds interpret visual information with and without reference – horizon – data).

        But, I really did like Mercury Rising. 🙂

        • oh yes you are correct. When you see the moon referenced to something like the horizon it seems larger. Sorry.

        • JC1117 says:

          Hello Astree and Clues. The moon illusion is crazy, indeed. I’ve seen it many times…and I always thought it was some kind of atmospheric lensing effect. I swear the moon looks twice as big as it normally does when it’s full and near the horizon. It’s extra trippy when the moon is colored…like a harvest moon.

          It turns out it’s actually the Ponzo Effect. There’s a great example on the link below. The picture looks like the London Underground maybe.


          I’ll have to watch Mercury Rising, Astree. It looks really good, and I’ve never seen it. I’m going to try to watch it tonight.

          • astree says:

            I really liked the movie, JC1117, but when I looked it up on wikipedia, it said it got not-so-good reviews. I’d be interested what you think, if you have a chance to see it.

            … while I was at wikipeida


            ( and stay away from your namesake 117, that could be dangerous )


            • JC1117 says:

              Thank you very much for the polymorphism link, Astree. That is very kind of you.

              One thing really jumped up, though, and got my attention.


              Nothing is too small to know. 🙂

              • astree says:

                “However, some sparrows are a little lazy”. The excitement in her voice when she narrated kept me on the edge of my seat. I recall our discussion of the “1117” several years ago. Were you aware that the video was 1:07 and posted on 7/17 ?

                Your “Nothing is too small to know” hit a resonance with me (and, then again, how small is nothing, and can you know it?). It reminds me of what was once said to me, in a most unusual voice “Look ever more closely”.

                “… or too big to attempt”

                You’ve probably seen these type of illustrations, but after the first few steps, I still start getting vertigo


                (from below) Glad you liked the movie- good quote, too.

            • JC1117 says:

              Good show.

              “Somebody just walked on water.”

        • astree says:

          Thanks, JC1117 and Clues. I had actually thought that it had at least something to do with traveling through more atmosphere when it’s near the horizon, too, before I looked it up. Ha, JC, I had heard of a Ponzi Scheme before, but not the Ponzo Effect – interesting name.

          Here’s something that bends my mind a bit – Why do the moon and sun appear to be the same size ? ( I know about diameters and distances, but the question is ) … Why here, the only place we know of in the solar system, where someone can see that effect? Crazy stuff. I don’t think any of the other planets I looked at have moons that give that effect … but I need to recheck.

          Have a good night,

  25. pdenver says:

    ‘…and I’m just smart enough to know I’m not smart enough…’

    A positive and a negative comment. Positive + Negative = Attract


    Something to do with an attraction (place) ?

  26. Forrest Fenn says:

    My phone ain’t ringing so I guess that’s them ain’t calling.

  27. MartinS says:

    I tried calling John Glenn a couple of times. He never answered.
    I sent him a letter once (with a SASE). No response.
    Neil Armstrong responded though. Now I have a nice autographed 8×10 color photo.

  28. Iron Will says:

    I know what you did there Forrest. Problem is, I’m not sure I’m smart enough to know whether or not I can get that line working again. 🙁

  29. COBO says:

    Sounds like you have a crew full of rookies!

  30. Iron Will says:

    “Hurry Fenn come down here and jump in this rocket with me,”

    That line must be out of order. f (noting above quote to be an anagram)

    Check further in WY, hidden on Mammoth juniper trees


  31. Indiana says:

    Mr Fenn, I think you should have been part of the “Mercury 7” or rather “Mercury 8”. What do you think?

  32. Chesney says:

    Thank you Mr. Fenn and Ms. Kile, this helps me tremendously… hope I spelled theat correctly! 🙂

  33. Crow says:

    I would like to call and say, ‘come here with me’ but I do not have a number to call – maybe that is why the phone appears to be out of order. I sure would like a hand, leg, foot, arm, ingenious idea, sneaky character, whatever it would take–I’m getting whipped!

    • Strawshadow says:

      No phone for me either Crow, turned it off months ago. What was interesting though was a few days ago I was driving and my pad picked up a wifi with the name “FBI surveillance”. Creative name for a wifi if you don’t want people plugging in.

    • JL says:

      Sounds like you are as busy as a one legged, one armed ingenious sneaky character at a a$$ kickin contest.

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