Featured Question and Weekly Words from Forrest Fenn: What is Safe?

thrill of the chaseMr. Fenn, you said that the chest is in a safe location. Is there cellular phone reception at that location? – because to me a safe location would be one where you would be able to call for help if needed! ~J

I don’t remember saying that the treasure is in a safe location. “Safe” is an absolute word, meaning there is no possibility for harm. So don’t you think your last sentence is oxymoronish? If you are safe, why would there be a need for a phone? Look around the world and tell me of a place that is truly safe. f


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Weekly Words From Forrest Fenn

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101 Responses

  1. Linda McNevin says:

    Thank goodness we didn’t bring our phones this time… no reception last time.

  2. Dan says:

    Very humbling message. Thanks J, Mr. Fenn and Jenny.

  3. E.C. Waters says:

    I found two cracked safes that were tossed over Old Stage Road into a steep drainage ditch in Strawberry Fields. The treasure was in neither. Thieves litter. Or is it sedan? I forget the right word now.

    • astree says:


      July 8, 2016 at 7:26 am


      “Bungee cords were also used in …”
      . . .
      B U N G E
      E C O R D
      S W E R E
      A L S O U
      S E D I N

    • jonsey1 says:

      Did you happen to notice a lone set of Mongoose tracks nearby? I bet they’d love trappings like strawberries….and litter! Not certain whether they could out run a Sedan though

      I would assume that would depend on the Sedan.

      And also, moreso, on the Mongoose.
      You make note of any other evidence E.C.? Or did the case come to an icy halt right there? Im really intrigued with this crime scene.

      • E.C. Waters says:

        @jonsey1 – No mongoose tracks, but a nice nod to my favorite solution-reference of Madagascar. And no strawberries in Strawberry Fields that I have found. Just in the Spanish heraldry for Madrid and all of the “17th century Spanish” references Fenn likes to use.

        Assuming your question is a real one, I also found golf balls, four in total. Two were wedged under a pile of rocks where I had thought the treasure to be hidden. I can’t imagine that to be random. A couple more were scattered in the dry gully along with some junked tires and wheels and other random litter, including an old galvanized steel trashcan that was jammed in the gully. My son and I worked on setting it free and digging inside of it for about an hour before giving up. The flies were atrocious after a heavy rain. The old range balls definitely were not shot from the heather, nor the Broadmoor golf course. More likely they were crushed with a #3 wood from some d-bag’s back porch over some huge rock formations. I found a bronze boundary marker for a cadastral survey (T14SR07), and some small washer-like markers nailed into a tree next to it with “D.B. & CO. PLS 23515” stamped into them. It made me think of “Catcher in the Rye”, the older brother. I also found an old torn up Sega motherboard and console remnants next to a hollowed out log which I found peculiar given Fenn’s words on getting kids off their devices. And I found a somewhat peculiar ponderosa burl near a park boundary marking the center of the lower square of the park. All of it is meaningless to me now. I could find the same relevance in a garage sale. Pics of all of these (except the presumed d-bag) are on my twitter feed, @mikebibler.

  4. JL says:

    “I don’t remember saying the chest is in a safe location” but it was stated in was not in a dangerous place, correct me if I am wrong. I don’t remember is Bill Clintons favorite reply before the grand jury.

  5. Onuat says:

    “Safe” it is. All pillowed down and scented in. 🙂
    Good morning!! Thanks again J, f and Jenny.
    @ Jenny. The new look is very calming. Like it.

    • E.C. Waters says:

      It makes me smile that the bootlegged album Alpha Omega was produced by a company whose logo was a pillow, crown, and scepter. Strange changing of words… “pillowed down and scented in” when the depiction is actually from an Alan Seeger poem “I Have a Rendezvous With Death”. The words referenced are “Pillowed in silk and scented down.” Fenn is always great at crediting the author, but in this case he changed it. Maybe for a reason?

  6. 23kachinas says:

    Living in two worlds,
    Safe and unsafe,
    Build a bridge,
    Take a friend to lunch.

  7. MS girl says:

    I would possibly consider inside a police station around a full room of cops somewhat safe! Just a thought and maybe down underground in a safe room from a storm maybe a shelter. The words” safe place” are left for much interpretation; on how they are used. I do not know where Forrest said this but I too believe it also was said somewhere. Just my humble but rambling thoughts….

    • Chesney says:

      He stated in an interview somewhere once, the chest was in a place where it would be safe for 1000 years. Can someone please help me. 😀

  8. jonsey1 says:

    The only place I know is way ahead of Time, or, if it’s close then on a ‘slide’ after a run …generally on to Base, or home plate (but there’s other fields too)…faster than the opposing team can manipulate ones perfectly.hit balls to their own advantage. Why did I sound like Micky Mantle right now?Anyhow, controlled skids are sure to keep well struck balls behind them, and chasing the batter around the mound. Essentially that split second strike of the ball is a precursor to SAFE ON BASE…or better yet HOME SAFE. Sure….it puts a little pressure on the catcher….but what kind of fun would baseball be without those kind of thrills in the bottom of the ninth anyhow??

    Rock and Roll

  9. DPT says:

    Oxymoronish is not a word I could find in a dictionary. Oxymoron is. Is Forrest trying to draw attention to this word? Like Knowlege in the book and other words such as sumbody?
    Oxymoron has a root meaning of foolish and keen. Both interesting words. Foolish has been talked about with searchers before, but not sure I have seen Keen being discussed.
    Keen has a root meaning of brave, bold, wise and know for the first definition of the word. An alternate definition means to wail or cry: lament. All interesting if Forrest is drawing attention to the word.

    Overall , I believe Forrest is telling us that even though he has said that the chest is not in a dangerous place, there is harm in almost every place we travel in todays world. Especially when traveling in the Rocky mountains, we then enter Mother Nature and the animals world. There is no “safe” place in the rockies, be smart searchers and don’t take any unnecessary risks.

    Thanks for the weekly words Forrest, Jenny and J

  10. Chesney says:

    Thank You Mr. Fenn, J, and Ms. Kile, for the Weekly Words!

  11. Seannm says:


    Our cell phones are the most dangerous tools we own, at least in the hands of those who don’t wield them properly. I would consider a place where they didn’t work to be safer than a place they did.


  12. JCM says:

    f read and responded to this question for what it was, an attempt to narrow down the search area for his treasure chest (there are a lot of places in the 4 states that do not have cell phone service and there are maps readily available that detail this). He didn’t fall for it and his response is par the course for how he has responded in the past to similar attempts.

  13. JL says:

    That is a good point but why respond at all to the question of that is the case. There must be plenty of other questions to choose from each week.

    • JCM says:

      Consider it from f’s perspective: he is peppered with questions constantly from searcher’s emails each day and then there are also the many questions that Jenny is sending to him that are sent to her from searchers. How does that affect his mood and responses he gives? I can’t imagine he wants to give out good hints and information to help move everyone along each week (as much as we would like that) towards solving his challenge; more probable is that he looks to get people talking about something and routinely dishes out what amounts to just being filler (some of it very interesting and educational at times).

  14. Forrest said it not in a dangerous place. So, I would be asking myself, what could be dangerous in a safe place?

    • Oxymoronish, you think?

    • Buckeye Bob says:

      When he said that, he was talking about the terrain. People are looking in difficult and dangerous to get to places (or were), ignoring the fact that Forrest was 79 or 80 when he went.
      But that doesn’t mean that the location can’t be dangerous in the winter time under icy conditions, or that a wandering bear in a bad mood can’t happen along.

      People are trying to define what he says to too great of a degree. It’s an impossible situation for Forrest to satisfy.
      Ask yourself, is driving on a highway safe?
      You cannot answer that question for all possibilities. What if it’s on icy roads? What if there’s a drunk driver? What if a ball joint breaks and your wheel falls off at 65 MPH? There’s a lot of what ifs that can apply.

  15. Dana says:

    For a child, a safe place could be a harbour.
    There is something radioactive about this post or maybe he is just ruled by antiquity.

  16. crowfeast says:

    What is safe for one may not be safe for another. It all depends on the person and situation. Many beautiful parks and forests do not have cell phone service. Wonder what people did before cell phones – oh yup, they let others know where they were going, when, and when they should return. Which then, is more important: getting a $2M~ chest of stuff without anyone knowing or trusting that someone knows what, when, and where–any why. Anything can happen any where. I don’t think there is more to read into the post other than don’t be a fool, know yourself and know your surroundings–boaters are required to have a trip plan and so are pilots – what makes it different for hikers, skiers, hunters, fishermen, etc.? Common sense.

  17. Seannm says:


    Beginning to believe that there sure are a lot of meek people out there afraid to leave the relative safety of home let alone their electronic devices. Have a nice vacation playing canasta with grandma!

    “Put in below the home of Brown. From there it’s no place for the meek,”


    • JL says:

      Yes there are a lot of meekness in our world today which is great if everyone was safe but we are not. Having a working cell phone will not ensure anyone’s survival, rep once times can be too great to over come the situation. A person must always be prepared to meet their maker, nothing to fear of you have prepared right

  18. spallies says:

    If I find the treasure I am going to put it back in the “Box Safe” inside my “Safe” for “Safe” keeping. 🙂

  19. DPT says:

    After reading this again and again I noticed something. Forrest is asking us a question in the last sentence. He wants us to use our minds to think of a “Safe” place.
    Interesting also is Safe with a capital S means of ducks: a sord of ducks. A sord of ducks is a flock of mallards. A male mallard is a Drake. A female duck is a duck or hen. A hen is a biddy.
    A drake is also a mayfly, a small cannon and root word is draca, dragon. hmmmmm

    One must adapt, hmmm

    Forrest I know where my safe place is. Thank you!

  20. Diggin gypsy says:

    Coot u did say it was in a safe place I remember sometime
    Someplace way back hahaha 🙂 but yea your right there is no place safe on this world anymore just eat the word safe FF 🙂

    • jackson says:

      Correct me once you research it,, but I think he said “it’s safe and in a thrilling location”.
      Safe has different meanings also

  21. cablemanrevisited says:

    If one were to find the treasure and have proof, would you be able to contact Forrest by phone and have him call that individual?

  22. Strawshadow says:

    Thanks JJ, Jenny and Mr. Fenn, What is safe? That’s like asking a mover how many boxes it takes to fill a crate, to the mover, that all depends on the weather. Or if you like animals, the honey badger rides a mongoose only until it’s hungry ego says it needs another chip. Both of those deserve a two thumbs down. All I’m seeing here is a blank screen and that’s safe. You might also add that to be safe you really should know where to begin. I know there’s something I’m missing or forgetting here besides my heart, mind and stomach, begging for attention like a lighthouse at night, it will come to me though. Peace!

    • JL says:

      I don’t believe you have forgotten I believe you just don’t want to be so bold as to blurt it out. Peace to u also.

    • Spoon says:

      Straw – I’m not getting anything out of this one. Am I losing my edge, or is there just nothing there?

    • Ellen says:

      Hi Strawshadow…You have my attention (LOL), don’t know about your heart, mind and stomach but I find that sometimes I can only take one day at a time…or write a poem (smile). We never know what is around the corner…don’t need to even open a can of worms (unless you like to fish)…but I expressly hope you find what you are looking for and deserve (including Peace).

      • Strawshadow says:

        Ellen, everything I write is chase related and how did you know that I just got done fishing, lol. It was peaceful all right, too peaceful, not even a strike. My poetry is very honest and follows my emotions so I have to be careful what I post. Thank you for the well wishes and I hope you find what your seeking as well:)

  23. Spade says:

    Yes. We shouldn’t mistake meekness for weakness. Almost time for my boy to watch episode 4 of monkey in the punch bowl. Although with my luck I’ll probably get hit by a banana, or something like that.

    • JL says:

      Well if u can’t grab em gettin hit by them is a good thing, maybe you will get lucky and a Chiquita delivery truck is in ur future.

  24. JohnR says:

    J, I hope you’re an adult… And not a kid, cuz that was kind of mean.

    • JohnR says:

      Mr Fenn,
      Here’s a question that seems to be right up your alley. How many holes in your walls, you got, to hang up all your stuff? As a follow-up… How much is too much of the same thing? Do you set the limit or your wife?

  25. JL says:

    No meanness intended, only good luck delivery. I’m a kid when it comes to bananas.

  26. E.C. Waters says:

    “Look around the world and tell me of a place that is truly safe. f”

    Well… since you asked so nicely and all… here’s a scant for fun:
    – New Haven, CT
    – Vault Hill, NY (and another in Tasmania)
    – Porto Seguro, Brazil (Port Safe)
    – Ankazoabo Atsimo, Madagascar (translates to South East Haven)
    – not to mention all the places in the Rockies with the word “sanctuary” (in any language) in their proper nouns

    But yeah. Who’s interpreting?

  27. JL says:

    More safe places :
    -human health and resources department, they got ur back
    – safety department, u can count on them to enforce a new policy to keep u safe.
    – the UN keeping people safe since their inception.
    – Air Bags…. Politically speaking we could survive without them.
    Just a few in my heat induced jockuliarity…….

  28. Mark J says:

    Maybe the purpose was to try and narrow down the search area to only areas that have or don’t have cell coverage.


  29. Chesney says:

    So we can be pretty certain that the destination is small, the location is huge. The chest is in a safe place for itself, but perhaps not for thr finder. Lastly, the location is not treacherous, because Mr. Fenn could go back on his 86th birthday to get it, in August! Quite the place, too!

  30. Spade says:

    Maybe I’m wrong Chesney but i thought this birthday was in mid or late July. Not that it really matters. Good luck with your quest.

  31. Joe says:

    Cell coverage possibly

  32. A V says:

    hear me all and LIST EN good.


    a careening, or leaning to one side, as of a ship.

    put into or onto : cover with : go into or onto

    Watching old TV shows is good for ole guys heart.

  33. Canary says:


    Putting an odometer on the axle of his carriage, he personally measured distances between Post Offices, travelling approximately 1,600 miles.

    First mom

  34. JL says:

    Box could be multiple square dances on different levels or limbo where u keep lowering the bar till no one can follow. Blaze could be a reference to giving someone a hot foot. Circle up the wagons and play Cowboys and Indians dancing around from sneaky spot to sneaky spot. I’m game as long as we aren’t dancing to the tune of climb to glory again. Good clean fun and keep it respectful, none of that kiss and tell stuff.

  35. J. Tyndall says:

    I think a searcher has sent ff proof his chase is over and that is why ff is calling that person names. Ive seen moron, dumb and ass being used in the 3 last posts. I wonder if ff is going to be honest with the rest of us and just say its up folks this thing is over and the chase is no longer a valid chase. We’ll see if he’ll be forthcoming….is it possible he thinks the money finder will contact him? I wonder if he expected that? Would there be an incentive to do so?

  36. 23kachinas says:

    If you take the NTA letters out of SaNTA Fe you have Safe.

  37. Lia says:

    So busy at the hospital with a family member that I just now remembered the Friday message from you Mr. Fenn. I always look forward to your weekly words. Thank you. Oxymoron’ish’ is a fun fennism t hat I will try to apply ox’s and y’s to your poem and not be too moronic in the process. Wait, I see oro in the middle of moronic.

  38. wildbirder says:

    i was just wondering if i sign like i have will a automatically get new post? if not how do i sign up for new postings please?

    • Lia says:

      Hello Wildbirder, I’m not sure that you can sign up here at MW for emails. Why don’t you send Jenny Kyle a message and ask. Hope you are doing well, I haven’t seen you posting in a while.

  39. Chesney says:

    I feel obliged to post this publicly, and hope Ms. Kile will allow it… perhaps run it by Mr. Fenn if in question. The question I have is as follows; “Mr. Fenn sid that his poem was straight forward, and he wasn’t play ing games when he wrote it. It was 15 years in the making”. How many years and how many people, will it take to read the poem to figure it out? I don’t think I have it solved, but did he possibly design it for one person who could manage to “unravel the poem”? Thank you in advance. He is Sly, so I don’t anticipate an answer. I would probably be “floored”, if I received one! 😀 At least he still has a fun imagination, and seems a “Child At Heart”… 🙂

    • Buckeye Bob says:

      I don’t know how he could design it for just one person. And if he did, after 5 full years I think it would be safe to say he failed.

      • JL says:

        How would that even be possible? If it was designed for one person, wouldn’t that be like giving the favorite student the answers to the chest or test?

      • Chesney says:

        Well, Since we all analyse everything so thoroughly in “The Chase”, Perhaps I should have been more specific in my wording. I do not mean to say he left it for a favorite person he knows, but for a specific type of person such as an “Empath”. Someone who thinks differentlythan most others. This is why I believe it is still going! All In My Opinion.

        • JL says:

          ok, i see where your at now……. learn something new every day and this was today’s. thanks

        • Buckeye Bob says:

          In that sense, sure. A good puzzle is hard because almost everyone doesn’t get something. One person will. Maybe more people might have in time. But that one person is someone who figures something out that leads to the correct solve that everyone else to that point hasn’t.
          I loved the movie “National Treasure”. In that story, Ben Gates had many ideas that no one else thought of. So in this sense, he was “the one” who was different. That treasure hunt was made specifically for someone like him.
          The requirements in that story were knowledge, faith, work, and that something special we might call insight. That’s the same here with Fenn’s Treasure, and the same for all mysteries solved.

          • JL says:

            In essence, you are saying that either Fenn knew how to create in a way that some would not be able to follow or that he could create in a way that one could find. If 5 percent of the 60k looking now have the ability that would translate into a significant amount, they would still have to have the wisdom and knowledge to put it all together. It is a very interesting concept which I have given thought to before but never had a name to apply to it. It has always been a theory of mine that everyone is on a different level and the more the restarts you have achieved the less contaminated things are. You get to keep trying till you get it right.

  40. Peter says:

    Im a person that believes in encounters and so this one was bizarre enough that i have to share as this could happen suddenly an without warning. Major Fenn may not be with us much longer. So i was out throwing frisbee this afternoon in a random remote part with a friend and i throw the frisbee into the blackberry bushes and the disc landed on a grave or memorial. The grave was hidden from sight with no signs indicating its existence.


  41. Diek says:

    To enter A house wholly constructed by cosmic chance is an enriching experience.

  42. Julip says:

    Sacre’ bleu

    Not just can anyone cannon a saker spanish cannon

  43. Chase me says:

    One thing i dont do is play Fenns game 🙂

  44. Twingem says:

    Hi Jenny,

    Would you please forward this question to Mr. Fenn?

    Mr. Fenn, Is the treasure still wet?

    Thank you!!!!

  45. Julip says:

    Ship – list – pirate treasure

    I like sledgehammer

    I dont dance with the millenium

    One must pound it with a sledgehammer, or melt it down in
    order to change its shape. All o f m y bells were cast in that material
    so I could bury them. Each one is signed and dated or there would

    be no point to the madness. Some o f the bells have clankers that

    I made from large copper nails taken from 17th century Spanish

    galleons. Skippy’s son, Crayton Fenn, is a professional deep sea diver.
    He gave the nails to me.

  46. Steve R says:

    So is he saying maybe there are bears? Safe enough but no guarantee

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