Chatting with Forrest: His Office

Forrest's Desk - CopyForrest Fenn is known to invite seekers of his Thrill of the Chase Treasure into his home. My family and I were so blessed and fortunate to be one of these lucky people.  After meeting two of his best treasures, his wife Peggy, and daughter Kelly, Forrest led us into his office for a visit.

We felt like we were stepping into a sacred space.  Maybe because we were. The numerous artifacts, carefully and passionately displayed, from floor to ceiling, filling every available pause, gave off such powerful essences.  I knew each held significance.  Each had a story.  Each was valuable. Each was treasured by Forrest.

I asked Forrest ‘what do you like to collect most?’  His answer was one I will never forget.  It touched me in such an inspiring way.  His answer wasn’t a category, like coins.  It wasn’t an era, like Medieval Artifacts. It wasn’t a culture, like Egyptian items.  It wasn’t an event, like WWII items.  It wasn’t a value; anything could be worthy to be part of his collection.  Even the broken back scratcher.

Forrest’s answer was; “I like to collect things that are unique.  Unique as in one of a kind.”

I wouldn’t say some of the things I collect weren’t for the same reason. But his answer made me truly realize ‘why’ some things I collected are treasured most.

Forrest's Dad's fishing lures - CopyHis Father’s old fishing lures are unique.  One of a kind.  You knew they were treasured and belonged in his collection.  The same collection which includes Sitting Bull’s peace pipe.  Both are priceless items.  I don’t think we need to choose which is treasured more.  But we know from this example, the vast range of items his collection includes.

He went on to show us some other ‘unique’ things in his collection.  Many he has shared through Dal’s scrapbooks, like Minerva or The Ballerina.  Many are also shared within the stories of the multiple books he has written, like the Indian Dolls (with actual human or animal hair) or San Lazaro Pueblo’s Pottery.  To see these items up close certainly was a special treat.

It has been noted in the previous Q and A, the bottle of brandy sitting within the tiny space on his shelf.  One of a kind because it was given to him by Jackie Kennedy.  Although it sits quietly in the back, amongst other one of a kind items, you all saw it in the image.  It’s in a perfect spot.

There is the Bison skull discovered with an arrowhead embedded within it and an old cross below.  Both one of a kind.

There is a fence post of Eric Sloane’s.  One of a kind.  And Sloane’s art palette too. Colorfully, one of a kind. (Forrest mentions this in his Seventeen Dollars a Square Inch book.)

One of a kind book - CopyForrest showed us his books.  Many made unique by the signatures, special papers, or a King’s seal found within them.  All one of a kind for some reason or another.

The list could go on and on, and I hope to share more items in this ‘Chatting with Forrest’ series as time goes on.

It surely is one of a kind office…filled with a one of a kind collection…by a one of a kind gentleman.  It was a one of a kind visit.  One which I will be forever grateful for.  Thanks Forrest.  My family and I loved it.  A one of a kind memory and treasure.  Just like your One of a Kind Treasure Chest you have hidden for anyone to dare themselves to find!


Best of luck with whatever you seek!


For Spallies:

Forrest holding Minerva

Forrest holding Minerva



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54 Responses

  1. Patio says:

    Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you all had a fun visit.

  2. ThrillChaser says:

    His office looks like you could spend hours looking at things in there. Very cool.

  3. Wendy Jo says:

    Jenny, I’m glad you got to experience being in Forrest’s study, amongst his treasures! When I was there, it was an exhilarating experience! It felt as if everything was alive! Did you feel that?

    • Jenny says:

      Hi Wendy Jo,

      Yes, we felt the same as you. So much history and amazing things to have a ‘marvel gaze’ towards….lol…..But we didn’t ‘tarry scant’…..I sat in quiet awe, listening, for as long as I could….

    • boomergirl says:

      Interesting talk about office visits, wish I could have been there to see with my own eyes. Oh well, maybe next time 🙂

  4. fox says:

    thanks for the interesting peek into his office. I see Forrest reads Forbes and some other magazines.

  5. Spallies says:

    Thanks so much for sharing Jenny! That sounds like an amazing time… Did you happen to see Minerva?

  6. anna says:

    What a very special treat to thread a tract through such a unique gentleman’s collection and visit with him personally. I tried using a magnifying glass to read the Kings seal and look at book titles.

  7. Carolyn says:

    Thank you very much for showing us Jenny! Thank you Forrest for letting them into your world. I love all of the beaded items, especially the moccasins. I would want to touch them and try on a pair. Did you get to touch any of the items? How did everything smell? I would also like to know how he got all of his books. Did he ever go to any garage sales and flip through the books or just go to old book stores or do people call him and sell it to him?

  8. cynthia says:

    Jenny, What a beautiful depiction of Forrest’s special place…I, too, have been one of the very lucky people who have had the opportunity to step into his world…the first time I stepped through the heavy wooden doors, I found the experience totally intoxicating…I had no words to describe what I was seeing and feeling. Eventually I was able to mumble something to Forrest…and just like the school kids who he let touch George Washington, I also asked him if I could touch various pieces, which he replied yes. It’s really difficult to pick a “favorite” but the thing I always cherish is a specific bronze jar sitting on his desk… because he made it…Looking forward to more of your stories. cynthia

  9. Lou Lee says:

    Very Very Cool Jenny, Good Job!

  10. Danny-boy says:

    I love that cowboy bronze you can see next to Minerva in the photo for spallies.

    Great piece of work.

  11. Ramona says:

    Hi Jenny, thanks for sharing your pictures and time with Forrest with all of us. I really appreciate it. Take everything you see in the pictures above and add in his one of a kind relationships with people and there you have the recipe for finding his hidden treasure. Priceless.

  12. anna says:

    Minerva appears even more beautiful and delicate held by Forrest.

  13. 23kachinas says:

    Jenny, I’m happy you got a chance to visit Forrest and meet his family. So many treasures, so little time to really experience the awe of each item he has collected.

  14. JC1117 says:

    Thanks for sharing that, Jenny…and thanks for letting Jenny into your office to tell us about it. WOW! All I can say is…WOW! His office has more valuable…one of a kind…pieces than most museums. It’s mind-boggling to think about where every single piece has been and the stories that each piece could tell…if only they could.

  15. GM says:

    Excellent little article. Amazing things to see. Thanks for letting us in on a bit of your adventure and see those things too.

  16. Kathryn says:

    I am glad you had a nice experience and visit. I don’t know how I would feel with so many things surrounding me. I would not know what to look at first, second or third. Overwhelmed. I am proud of the arrowhead he sent and look at it daily. One “treasure” is enough and the arrowhead is small enough. I am not sure if I would like to meet him surrounded by his collections of uniques or sitting on a rock in the middle of the wilderness. For now, I am visiting wilderness and stretching out enjoying the sounds of nature. Glad your visit was informative.

  17. deb says:

    My favorite was the bear claw necklace. The size of the claws and what kind of courage it must have taken to be close enough to kill such a large predator made a huge impression on me.
    I also liked the Egyptian artifacts, they were lovely.

  18. Eliza says:

    Forrest’s last two responses share an interesting element :

    “It always was better for me to buy from you and have you buy from me…”

    “I like to collect things that are unique. Unique as in one of a kind.”

    They each contain a double U. In the second case, the irony of doubling up on the first syllable of the word “unique” is pretty clever.

    This brings to mind the colophon, which could be viewed as an upside down double U.

    (There is also a double U on the shack at the WWWH website, but that may not be coming from Forrest)

    All of this brings us back to W illiam M arvin Fenn, I suppose.

    The inverse relationship between W and M also seems to have found its way to the banner at the top of this page!

    If there is anything resembling a hint here, it may be related to the idea of equating letters of the alphabet to corresponding homophones. So for example, Whitey Ford might lead one to Y T. (Ford may also lead to FOR D, which leads to 4 Ds, which matches the last letters of the four lines of the last stanza of the poem. The last two observations were first made by another searcher whose screen name escapes me.)

    So perhaps, for example, “you are brave” may lead us to U R brave, which, if you look hard enough, may then lead to something else.

  19. Eliza says:

    Nice to hear Jdiggins!

    Just for fun, see if you can anagram U R BRAVE IN WOOD to three words that

    1) hang together nicely
    2) have a Native American theme
    3) have three first letters which spell something that ties into the poem as well as into (2)


    • Jdiggins says:

      Hi eliza! Thx for the riddle. I’m on it…I’ll be back…I hope! 🙂

    • Spallies says:

      Well the best I came up with so far is:
      UR Rainbow Dove that’s actually 4 words and UR Doesn’t really hang well with the others imo… and the first letters don”t seem to relate to the poem unless it’s Dur as in durrr or Duhhh lol… I might have some more time tomorrow to play around with it… Thanks Eliza, Eliza, Eliza, ..

      • Jdiggins says:

        I’m still working on it too I’m at a birthday party right now so I’ll have to get to it later. It’s a tough one! or it’s right in front of my face and I can’t see it…lol!

  20. Eliza says:

    Here’s a hint:

    What do you find at the end of a rainbow?

  21. Eliza says:


    Our Woven Braid is my choice.

    The first letters combine to spell BOW, which, of course, ends every RAINBOW.

    A bow is a weapon used by braves.

    “So hear me all and listen good.” The word “listen” might suggest looking for a word that sounds like “hear.”

    Maybe “hair.” (Go back and look at astree’s avatar).

    A brave’s hair was often braided.

    Finally, look at the first letters of the first four lines of the poem: A A I A. Now google them.

    Forrst has always had a deep reverence for Native American culture. I believe that this is reflected in the poem, and I think in one of the clues as well.

    • Jdiggins says:

      Thank you, Eliza, that was a good teaser. 🙂 And, it also showed me I should go more on my instinct…well, sometimes. I was definately headed in that direction! 🙂

  22. Spallies says:

    Well Dur… that seems easy now… Thanks again Eliza!

  23. Eliza says:

    U R both more than welcome!

  24. Eliza says:

    There might be other parts of the poem that you should “listen good” to when they are read out loud.

    For example, what does “quest to cease” kind of sound like?

    • Lia says:

      Eliza, I think “your quest to cease” sounds like “west to seas” which fits nicely with a Lewis and Clark theme. What do you think it sounds like?

      Our woven braid/BOW fits a braided oxbow of a stream and perhaps the hiding plac if I see hat, wig.

      • Eliza says:

        Hi Lia-

        I think it’s a simple instruction about a direction in which to walk: west to east. Elsewhere in the same stanza I think there is a description of a particular type of path to walk down as well as a precise distance to go.

        Think about Everard Hinrichs and Eric Sloane hiding in the first stanza (and the second line of the third stanza) and you might see this too!

    • Curiosity says:

      Eas or east maybe but then how would that work if he just said look quickly down which is south your quest or west so Southwest then you throw east in there??

    • astree says:

      Look quickly down, your quest to cease

      Your queue west to cease
      Your quest to see east

      These were only aside, not primary, but agree with the primary.

      Go in p EA ce, where EA is Old English for waterway, again incidental.


      • Jdiggins says:

        Hi Astree, Eliza, Lia, Spallies, etc al;
        it just so happens that I’m stuck at that particular spot,
        your quest to cease
        I am really over thinking it, and all this help, sorta is confusing, right now, now, I will add to Astree on the EA that stands out above. The four corners of the poem: AEID. Pg, 230 TFTW,
        Amelia Earhart Identification. Hmmm. 🙂

  25. Eliza says:

    A ll
    A nd
    LI sten

    Her life story has great meaning to Forrest. How he hid her name might tell you how to find some of the clues!

    • Jdiggins says:

      Thx Astree. Very cool.
      Do you suggest that this is the “cornerposts”,
      Then, next I would connect them?
      You are so good at this stuff, sometimes I get it, sometimes I struggle. Also, do you mean to say hints?
      Thx, JD

    • lia says:

      Eliza & jdiggings, the IDEA is also to wrap words around. But your right, the id card almost gives you the right coordinates. a little work and you’ll all have the correct L&L coordinates that I already figured out. Actually, I may just post both coordinates and let the red necks run for it. Too many mean games being played with some of my hard earned information. At some point you get pushed beyond caring.

    • 23kachinas says:

      The TIGHAR expedition is underway (today is start of Week 2) to find Amelia’s “initial campsite” on the island they think she landed her plane.

  26. Eliza says:

    Hi JD.

    If I were so good at this, I would have found where to find the treasure a long time ago, so don’t assign too much value on my comments. Nevertheless, I have a strong sense that some of the clues (as in the nine CLUES, not hints) are extracted from the words of the puzzle by assembling nearby groups of letters found at the beginnings and endings of words. This is why I have posted more than once about how the names Everard Hinrichs and Eric Sloane can be found in the poem. Amelia is another good example. I think that some of the other clues are even more straightforward, derivable from simple anagrams. The best example of this has been noted by many searchers: marvel gaze can be reordered to yield gravel maze, which is what I suspect one must walk on from west to east shortly before he or she reaches the chest.

    I’m guessing you were asking about my last comment and just mixed me and astree up! If so, I’m flattered, but he, as you know, operates at an entirely different level!


  27. Adam Ant says:

    How many people are in on this besides yourself, Jenny? Do you know?

  28. Chad says:


    Are the bells and jars shown on Forrest’s desk the same ones shown in The Thrill of The Chase? Did he ever have the chance to go out and bury any others like he talked about?

    If you don’t know, maybe Forrest would be kind enough to answer.


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